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RE: Deal breaker - pandp - 01-04-2015
Kapohocat, your comment made me shudder! Can't abide that chain. Still I think you're safe from that corporation in pahoa.
RE: Deal breaker - pam jones - 01-05-2015
Kapohocat funny you grew-up in Brrrbank, I spent just spent six chilly days there and found the air infinitely better than here. Odd how I was looking forward to LA air over the vog in my backyard. Daniel I will remind myself of your Chamber of Commerce information about the vog next time I'm in my yard feeling like there is sand in the back of my throat and my eyes are burning; obviously an overactive imagination! My intent with this thread was a so far futile attempt to understand what other people who live here are thinking regarding their upper limits of tolerance. I understand the feeling "stuck" financially, though we are blessed by not owing anybody, but at what point do people decide health and quality of life overrule any and all financial constraints? I seriously doubt anyone appreciates the advice to "remain indoors and close the windows" on very voggy days, least of all me!
RE: Deal breaker - Kenney - 01-06-2015
I don't think I'll know what my upper limit is until I get reach it. Hard to plan for the unknown. It looks like we're going to get the opportunity to reevaluate what our upper limits are at the end of the week when the winds change to Variable again. I'm not looking forward to it myself.
I've worked with lots of patients with respiratory problems and in my experience there is no question that the VOG does make them worse.
I worked graveyard shifts, so insulated the house because I thought I'd get ac someday. It's hard to sleep days when it gets hot. Now I want ac to purify the air, not cool it.
RE: Deal breaker - Kapohocat - 01-06-2015
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Originally posted by pam jones
Kapohocat funny you grew-up in Brrrbank, I spent just spent six chilly days there and found the air infinitely better than here. Odd how I was looking forward to LA air over the vog in my backyard.
So sorry to hear you had to go to Burbank. Only family draws us back there once in awhile. Yes, I am lucky down here. Our air quality has remained pretty consistently good. Maybe just a few days that have not been almost perfect. Honestly in Burbank, the only time the air is fairly clear is for the temp to be really low but even then when we watched the parade you could see a slight smog layer against the hills.
My second concern is the lack of social life with the majority of my long time good friends and hanai family being north of the flow. I have been here +25 years and was more north of Hilo and West Side for 65% of that time.
If anything it will be the social isolation that is the deal breaker for us.
RE: Deal breaker - terracore - 01-06-2015
Since moving here I've spent two weeks in LA at two different times of the year, and the air there choked me up. I guess it shows that different pollutions effect people differently. I did notice that the LA air only bothered me when I was outside.
RE: Deal breaker - Wao nahele wahine - 01-06-2015
Kapohocat,
I grew up in Glendale CA through high school...I remember if you had PE during 5th or 6th period in school that many times PE was cancelled due to smog. While all of us kids in the neighborhood were in elementary school we learned pretty quick that if you overexerted yourself on a bad smog day and got that aching in your chest when you tried to breathe that you had to sit down and not do anything for a good 20 minutes or so until it passed. Funny comment about Starbucks....I also lived in Seattle for 25 years.
Wahine
RE: Deal breaker - Guest - 01-06-2015
Well some weeks have been terrible in upper leilani due to the ongoing eruption. Other days or weeks the air has been tolerable to questionable. We have resorted to closing and taping all doors and windows. We have bought ceiling fans, portable fans, dehumidifiers, and purifiers. Masks must be worn outside during most mornings, no coffee drinking or early runs anymore.
We did experience a bad mold that spreads quickly due to the house having to be shut sometimes for days. Overall though we as a family of 7 are learning to live with many new life changes recently though the quality of air has become a concern.
This past Friday I was up in the volcano area and experienced the worst vog I had ever seen. We wanted to play golf around noon but we couldn't see 50 yards in any direction. This persisted all day and night. At times driving I literally had to pull over and stop for fear of running into something, even the center line was difficult to see. The smell was sulfer like with a blue tint and with no moisture. After seeing this 10-15 mile inundated vog throughout the entire golf course area made me feel like leilani's air quality was not as bad.
We have come very close to camping out down on the beach for a day or two at times and probably should have considering how bad it was. Even looked into renting for a few months but at an average of $1,500 hundred a month for 3-5 bedroom places and not knowing how long it may last has been deterences from packing and leaving just yet. With mortgages high and property values dropping its not the greatest selling market either. Times are just tough at the moment for much of Puna and many are just trying to cope or adjust to a different way of living.
RE: Deal breaker - Obie - 01-06-2015
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Originally posted by gypsy69
Well some weeks have been terrible in upper leilani due to the ongoing eruption. Other days or weeks the air has been tolerable to questionable. We have resorted to closing and taping all doors and windows. We have bought ceiling fans, portable fans, dehumidifiers, and purifiers.
I believe you may have a problem with your cesspool being full or some sort of venting problem with your plumbing !!
Closing and taping the windows would just make that worse.
You may be killing your family !!
Please call 911 asap !
RE: Deal breaker - Wao nahele kane - 01-06-2015
Gypsy69,
For mold prevention and clean up -
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Concrobium-1-gal-Mold-Control-Jug-025001/100654369
For clean positive airflow into the house -
http://airfiltershawaii.com/
RE: Deal breaker - pahoated - 01-07-2015
Not the only deal breaker. Looks like 2 houses closed in 96778 area code from November to December and there was a 95% drop in sales. The biggest deal breaker looks like the moratorium on state volcano insurance. That was overextended before the moratorium so it seems doubtful it will take on even more liability.
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