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RE: Pesticide Ban To Be Considered In Hawaii County - james weatherford - 08-03-2015
quote:
Originally posted by rainyjim
This means that they found at very high doses glyphosate can be toxic.
Please provide a citation/link for this statement.
RE: Pesticide Ban To Be Considered In Hawaii County - rainyjim - 08-03-2015
http://monographs.iarc.fr/ENG/Monographs/vol112/mono112-02.pdf
Enjoy, but next time do your own search!
RE: Pesticide Ban To Be Considered In Hawaii County - james weatherford - 08-03-2015
So, that was the ref I originally posted.
There is no "model" or laboratory experiment that applied a certain quantity. So, rainyjim's b.s. is just that.
The report draws from the results of many assessments from samples collected in the environment -- water, soil, air, food, working environments.
RE: Pesticide Ban To Be Considered In Hawaii County - Chunkster - 08-03-2015
You guys are not nearly as entertaining as the Hawaii Kingdom thread, a.k.a. "Potential restrictions to Mauna Kea Access." I'm taking my popcorn back over there.
RE: Pesticide Ban To Be Considered In Hawaii County - james weatherford - 08-03-2015
Thank you, Chunkster.
That is (almost) the nicest thing anyone has ever said to me on Punaweb.
RE: Pesticide Ban To Be Considered In Hawaii County - pahoated - 08-03-2015
Glyphosate does have a very obnoxious odor and it can bring on a nausea feeling very quickly. My complaint with glyphosate is that it isn't that effective. It warns of killing vegetation for up to a year. Try more like a couple months. Battery acid and used motor oil work a lot better for a lot longer. If this does go through, it means a lot more county crew pulling weeds by hand. More county hiring to maintain more county parks financed by more taxes and more fees. The people have spoken, so let it be done.
"Aloha also means goodbye. Aloha!"
RE: Pesticide Ban To Be Considered In Hawaii County - rainyjim - 08-03-2015
quote:
Originally posted by james weatherford
So, that was the ref I originally posted.
There is no "model" or laboratory experiment that applied a certain quantity. So, rainyjim's b.s. is just that.
The report draws from the results of many assessments from samples collected in the environment -- water, soil, air, food, working environments.
Whoa really? The monograph lists countless studies all of which have a specific threshold(s) or "quantity(s)" from which they are measuring their study off of.
So, anyways Glyphosates acute toxicity (LD50) is > 5000 mg/kg...this classifies it as "practically non-toxic".
And yes, you don't see this is any study involving the environment or humans in the metastudy linked by both of us because these concentrations are simply not found or used anywhere!
The only place you will see these concentrations is in toxicological studies.
I hope this helped.
RE: Pesticide Ban To Be Considered In Hawaii County - james weatherford - 08-03-2015
Zero to substantiate the claim that the IARC findings apply on to glyphosate "doses well beyond and level of concentration someone would ever come in contact with."
In fact, the sources of the information were exactly from sources people would specifically come in contact with.
RE: Pesticide Ban To Be Considered In Hawaii County - rainyjim - 08-03-2015
James, I am sorry you don't appear to be able to understand my point.
At this point I don't even know what your last post is referring to or what our current 'argument' is about. I will admit it appears we may be talking about two separate things.
If you want to have a discussion over this issue I am willing to, but would rather it be in those terms a 'discussion' not an argument.
RE: Pesticide Ban To Be Considered In Hawaii County - rainyjim - 08-03-2015
Interesting how dakine espouses a mass of scientific studies regarding safety and toxicity as 'BS' and yet his personal anecdotal experience involving a pet cat is his only contribution.
His posts really speak for themselves! #128557;