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RE: 4WD cars for Mauna Kea - dobanion - 08-02-2023
I'll add the brake issue is about technique more than capability. Most gas engines don't offer much engine braking anyway. Something I learned driving Class 8 trucks loaded to 80,000lbs coming down a hill, if you need to use the brakes, STAB EM, then let em cool a bit, STAB EM again. If you just drag the brakes for 10 minutes coming down the hill, sure, you'll smoke em.
RE: 4WD cars for Mauna Kea - leilanidude - 08-02-2023
(08-02-2023, 06:56 AM)HiloJulie Wrote: ...As with driving an older classic car, such as a 1963 Porsche 356, a Google search shows a low-end retail value of $97,200, Average retail value of $152,200 with a high-end retail value of $237,200, why ANYBODY would want to put the wear and tear it takes on a vehicle to climb that mountain and back...
Maybe you don't realize that those old Porsche's were designed to...OMG! race, and were also raced in hill climbs, off-road, etc. The owner has 5 or 6 different Porsche's and is active in the local Porsche club whose members actively drive them all over the island.
RE: 4WD cars for Mauna Kea - AaronM - 08-02-2023
(08-02-2023, 04:17 PM)leilanidude Wrote:(08-02-2023, 06:56 AM)HiloJulie Wrote: ...As with driving an older classic car, such as a 1963 Porsche 356, a Google search shows a low-end retail value of $97,200, Average retail value of $152,200 with a high-end retail value of $237,200, why ANYBODY would want to put the wear and tear it takes on a vehicle to climb that mountain and back...
Maybe you don't realize that those old Porsche's were designed to...OMG! race, and were also raced in hill climbs, off-road, etc. The owner has 5 or 6 different Porsche's and is active in the local Porsche club whose members actively drive them all over the island.
Guffaw! Anybody indeed!
RE: 4WD cars for Mauna Kea - HiloJulie - 08-02-2023
Just what we need. Amateurs behind the wheel of 60 plus year old glorified VW Beetles racing up and down the Mauna!
Now, I am disappointed that you elect to use such “cheap” Porsche 356’s.
Why not put your money into this one, and then race it to the top of the Mauna and show us all what for?!
1.76 million. Chump change!
https://newsroom.porsche.com/en/christophorus/porsche-356-sc-janis-joplin-12303.html
RE: 4WD cars for Mauna Kea - AaronM - 08-03-2023
(08-02-2023, 08:12 PM)HiloJulie Wrote: Just what we need. Amateurs behind the wheel of 60 plus year old glorified VW Beetles racing up and down the Mauna!
Now, I am disappointed that you elect to use such “cheap” Porsche 356’s.
Why not put your money into this one, and then race it to the top of the Mauna and show us all what for?!
1.76 million. Chump change!
https://newsroom.porsche.com/en/christophorus/porsche-356-sc-janis-joplin-12303.html
Yawn.
RE: 4WD cars for Mauna Kea - HiloJulie - 08-03-2023
I have a feeling you yawn a lot in life especially when driving down the Mauna
RE: 4WD cars for Mauna Kea - SBH - 08-03-2023
Here’s the Porsche to take to the top of Mauna Kea…
https://youtu.be/lYJ1PZAU64Q
RE: 4WD cars for Mauna Kea - HiloJulie - 08-03-2023
(08-03-2023, 07:31 AM)SBH Wrote: Here’s the Porsche to take to the top of Mauna Kea…
https://youtu.be/lYJ1PZAU64Q
Now I can just see that rig ripping up the Mauna as the driver yells "F&^% You" to all the 4X4 drivers as well as those in their Nissan Altima rental cars along with a few Hawaiian Acres & Puna "ridge runners" as he passes them all on their way up!
What's that? Road blocked? Some guy's brakes went out and caused a crash?
"Let make new one road brah!"
I guess its sacred sometimes, other times not so sacred!
PS How do you like my imitation Pidgin?
RE: 4WD cars for Mauna Kea - Durian Fiend - 08-03-2023
So was the crashed Tacoma a 4WD or not?
If the driver doesn’t have enough sense to simply use 1st gear in high range for a descent they probably wouldn’t bother to use low range either.
RE: 4WD cars for Mauna Kea - TomK - 08-07-2023
I don't think it matters if it was 4WD or not. The crash happened just below the VIS so the vehicle was on a paved surface and should have been in 2WD. I think I know where the accident happened, it's just after a long and very steep straight stretch of road with a sharp bend to the right at the end. If they had ridden the brakes all the way down it'd be no surprise at all to see a car go off the road at that point.