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RE: Solar on EVERY house? - StillHope - 01-13-2009
Yes,it is interesting.
Though to rent usually much more expensive than to own.
$ 100 a month will be more than my electric bill.
But for the bigger energy consumption it might work.
I think this link might be easier (FAQ):
http://renu.citizenre.com/index.php?p=svc_h_rat
RE: Solar on EVERY house? - Carey - 01-13-2009
SH, many homeowners in Hawaii have electric bills that are higher than $100.... remember, yours will most likely be at least 3 times your current electric bill.... even with taking a few drastic measures, $100 is pretty good here... ( we are less, but have invested more than most in energy conservation.... having had net metering back in IL where you could actually get paid for energy production...)
ReNU is also a rental system... couldn't find their rates in Hawaii... did you? Also there is a depsit required on the system... this can get pretty pricey Starting at $500/5KW....and going up
RE: Solar on EVERY house? - Guest - 01-13-2009
Carey - I must come visit your place some day.
I can't remember the last time one of our power bills was under $300.00!
RE: Solar on EVERY house? - Kapohocat - 01-13-2009
quote:
Originally posted by lquade
it is a shame that the government doesnt really want to help the homeowner... they will make you use a licensed solar contractor. this is not the same as your licensed electrician. you are not allowed to do it yourself even if you had the talent and could do it at a fraction of the price... as always someone is gonna make alot of money on this. i already have friends sending their kids to get this license. my electric bill, although has gone up has never approached 200 a month so i would hate to be forced into this one. just another use of government power to screw the little guy while telling us how wonderful it would be. if they wanted to help they could buy solar parts in bulk and sell to the public at the same price contractors would pay...
EXACTLY.
RE: Solar on EVERY house? - StillHope - 01-13-2009
quote:Carey,I already considered 3 times more (even 4).
Originally posted by Carey
SH, many homeowners in Hawaii have electric bills that are higher than $100.... remember, yours will most likely be at least 3 times your current electric bill.... even with taking a few drastic measures, $100 is pretty good here... ( we are less, but have invested more than most in energy conservation.... having had net metering back in IL where you could actually get paid for energy production...)
ReNU is also a rental system... couldn't find their rates in Hawaii... did you? Also there is a depsit required on the system... this can get pretty pricey Starting at $500/5KW....and going up
I almost never use the dryer. And almost never did (though I have a very good one).
It does wear out the clothes,so even if someone pays for it,I will not use the dryer unless it's too damp.
I don't use dishwasher either -waste of time( you still need to "prewash" dishes ).
The other thing that is that in the system:
Manufacturer - dealer (ec... -whatever) - lender
If one chain is out of business..
And the fact that they do only net-marketing..
I don't know...
Hopefully,we'll find at least one customer on PW (out their 33 K...)
RE: Solar on EVERY house? - Kapohocat - 01-14-2009
quote:
Originally posted by StillHope...
I don't use dishwasher either -waste of time( you still need to "prewash" dishes )...
With the good quality/high capacity dishwasher we just bought, you dont have to do as much prewashing as the old days. (you cant through big chunks in but you dont have to scrub every plate clean.) It does save elec when you do a lot of dishes every day because you can run it just once a day. It also helps when you have kids around that tend to go through a lot of glasses every day.
RE: Solar on EVERY house? - ef9 - 01-15-2009
quote:
Originally posted by lquade
i also think as a home builder you should be able to do your own plumbing/electric/solar and let the building inspector pass or fail you. you can get shoddy work from someone licensed just as easily as a talented homeowner....
Obviously you haven't seen the crap work done by many people who "borrow" the licenses from electricians! Now that is what you call shoddy work. The chances of a "talented homeowner" doing shoddy work is 1000x that of a licensed electrician doing shoddy work.
RE: Solar on EVERY house? - David M - 01-15-2009
If work is "shoddy" - county should fail it.
If work is up to snuff - county should pass it
Who did the work should NOT be the decider.
David
Ninole Resident
RE: Solar on EVERY house? - lquade - 01-15-2009
thank you david[
] sometimes a "license" is just a license to steal.
RE: Solar on EVERY house? - David M - 01-15-2009
I don't find fault with the "license", but the system as practiced. The goal ought to be safe and sound building, not liability or some other lawyer driven mania, yet during one of my inspections, the county inspector actually used the liability word and stated by getting an architect letter both he and the county would be protected.
I'm sure the vast majority of regular folk should NOT be doing complex electrical, plumbing, or any building, but the county should not penalize those that are capable or willing to work with supervision. One would have to be pretty naive to think all the plumbing and electrical work performed under color of "licensed" contractor was actually and physical done by the contractor himself and not some hourly helper working under some level of supervision.
But back to topic. solar electric systems now require their own permit and inspection process, yet I suspect the number of home grown systems that are not "legal" out number the legal ones based on cookie cutter diagrams from outfits like Outback. Wonder which one is safer?
I would have loved to do solar hot water, but it was just way way too expensive to do so legally. I will solar heat our pool, but then again pool plumbing isn't part of the county permit/inspection process.
David
Ninole Resident