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RE: free lunch - punaticbychoice - 02-28-2011
There are a few members of the business elite that must be given credit for living up to the billing however.
I may not agree with them, but they were /are competent.
Steve Jobs and Bill Gates: created much of the content of our lives today.
Larry Bossidy: turned a really messed up Allied Signal into today's Honeywell International.
Allan Mulally: the current Ford turnaround.
And of course in a past generation, Lee Iacocca at Chrysler.
RE: free lunch - anthonyf - 03-01-2011
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Originally posted by punaticbychoice
Steve Jobs and Bill Gates: created much of the content of our lives today.
Really? Gates and Jobs built all those millions of computers and wrote all that code by themselves? And they grew the food that they needed to eat and cleaned their toilets while the were doing it? Jobs transplanted his own pancreas? They both taught themselves how to read in kindergarden? They even created the egg and sprem which combined to make their bodies?
This is the silly idea of individualism that I was speaking about in another thread. People in Puna think the live independantly, buit they are only blind to the strings that tie them to everything else. It give one a power feeling to say they are independant but it is meaningless. What we need to understand and to foster is a proper dependance.
No one is independantly responsible for creating anything, and we can not even begin to disentangle the value that each individual contributed into creating computers. Jobs and Gates are nothing but the product of their environment. If more people has the same life experience as Jobs and Gates there would be more Jobs and Gates.
The word is Interdependance. Interdependance recognozes the different contributions and the infinite value of each.
And do not get me started on how we even have to assume that "all of this content" is even benefical for humaity.,,
RE: free lunch - anthonyf - 03-01-2011
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Originally posted by pslamont
No anecdote. That conversation happened about two weeks ago here on the Big Island.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anecdote
Anecdotal evidence is an informal account of evidence in the form of an anecdote. The term is often used in contrast to scientific evidence, as evidence that cannot be investigated using the scientific method. The problem with arguing based on anecdotal evidence is that anecdotal evidence is not necessarily typical; only statistical evidence can determine how typical something is. Misuse of anecdotal is a logical fallacy.
RE: free lunch - Bullwinkle - 03-01-2011
http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/20110301_Bills_to_redevelop_school_lands_criticized.html
timely read - relates to the schools and kids portion of the topic
RE: free lunch - punaticbychoice - 03-01-2011
Please see my 19:55:52 post of 2/28/11.
Re: aspects of connectedness and interdependence.
OK? Thanks.
RE: free lunch - punaticbychoice - 03-01-2011
And it is particularly acute and chronic for us living in the middle of the Pacific.
RE: free lunch - Bullwinkle - 03-01-2011
We need more of these kinds of good programs in the schools - cost effective and progressive as well as a real boost to skills
http://www.mauinews.com/page/content.detail/id/546564/Math-skills-the-focus-at-Friendly-Isle-event.html?nav=10
math and critical thinking skills over ipods - yes!
manana
RE: free lunch - anthonyf - 03-01-2011
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Originally posted by punaticbychoice
Please see my 19:55:52 post of 2/28/11.
Re: aspects of connectedness and interdependence.
OK? Thanks.
So you are showing me how you contradicting yourself?
They are not responsible but they created the content?
RE: free lunch - punaticbychoice - 03-01-2011
Come on, this forum is not a scientific paper or a PHD dissertation.
The expression of views is free-flowing and not always as rigorous as a
a complex legal pleading for example.
As far as "creating content" is concerned, a lot of people were and are involved- of course.
But someone's idea needs a lot of support of all kinds to make it a reality.
I agree with you- no one stands, exists or functions alone.
No contradiction.
RE: free lunch - Radiopeg - 03-01-2011
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Originally posted by punaticbychoice
A union public worker, a tea party activist and a CEO sit down around a plate of a dozen cookies.
The CEO takes 11 cookies, then tells the tea party activist: "watch out for that union guy, he wants a piece of your cookie"
What a great example that describes how I feel about the corporate world. Get rid of the unions and the CEOs get more. The rest are left just crumbs. I am saddened by the disappearance of our middle class.