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RE: TMT construction begins Monday 15 July - kalakoa - 07-23-2019
If the protesters kill the TMT will it then, after the big celebrations, inspire them on to get back to what the really want?
They'll fade away until the next billion-dollar project.
RE: TMT construction begins Monday 15 July - knieft - 07-23-2019
quote:
Originally posted by knieft
@TomK
Unbelievable.
Kirt
Any policeish authorities around? Did they just ignore or what?
Embarrassed of my species again and again.
Kirt
RE: TMT construction begins Monday 15 July - TomK - 07-23-2019
My understanding is that police (local and DOCARE) were nearby but didn't intervene. The officers are stationed a little bit farther up the access road.
RE: TMT construction begins Monday 15 July - kalakoa - 07-23-2019
Embarrassed of my species again and again.
Don't worry, extinction will take care of that, sooner than later.
RE: TMT construction begins Monday 15 July - ironyak - 07-23-2019
kalakoa - Who will be liable for the damage? The roadblock is "illegal" under the "rule of law", right?
KeaauRich - If the Gemini Observatory threatened to sue the county for any damages resulting from failure to maintain access for their staff
While I entirely think the government should be sued, especially if damages occur, it's commonly said that it's basically impossible to bring suit for failure to enforce the law. The second answer here is a good summary of the reasons why (pay special attention to Castle Rock v Gonzales)
https://politics.stackexchange.com/questions/9823/can-i-sue-the-government-for-not-enforcing-criminal-laws
RE: TMT construction begins Monday 15 July - HereOnThePrimalEdge - 07-23-2019
TomK copied:
Observatory technician car denied access to telescopes for critical maintenance
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RE: TMT construction begins Monday 15 July - TomK - 07-23-2019
I believe at least part of the incident was videoed by one of the technicians.
RE: TMT construction begins Monday 15 July - glinda - 07-23-2019
Am I right to assume if need be the techs can get to the summit via helicopter? I know helicopters go that high, I have been there in a few times, and several times on the summit of Mauna Loa. Seems to me this would be the most non confrontational way to get things done. Could slip in and out without anyone knowing if approach from Hamakua side.
RE: TMT construction begins Monday 15 July - TomK - 07-23-2019
I think it's fair to say that if alternative ways of getting to the summit were being discussed, I'd certainly not be daft enough to discuss them publicly.
RE: TMT construction begins Monday 15 July - HereOnThePrimalEdge - 07-23-2019
videoed by one of the technicians.
I thought it might get protestors to consider their potential personal and individual liabilities. Sometimes that’s lost when people think they’ll go unnoticed when they’re part of a group.
It could also encourage future interactions which are non-confrontational on both sides.