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RE: Am I allowed to speak? - Wao nahele kane - 01-21-2014
Obie,
I challenge you, PaulW and any other GMO proponent to read the entirety of the following link .pdf files content.
http://www.nongmoproject.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/GMO_Myths_and_Truths_1.31.pdf
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RE: Am I allowed to speak? - Obie - 01-21-2014
[quote]Originally posted by HawaiiTedd
Obie...certified organic farms are inspected annually by a 3rd party to insure compliance to USDA organic regulations.
And organic food is tested for purity ?
The third party inspection is a paperwork inspection.
No one has ever died from ingesting GM food,in the meantime hundreds die every year from untested organic food.It's a fact no one can deny!!
RE: Am I allowed to speak? - Obie - 01-21-2014
quote:
Originally posted by Wao nahele kane
Obie,
I challenge you, PaulW and any other GMO proponent to read the entirety of the following link .pdf files content.
http://www.nongmoproject.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/GMO_Myths_and_Truths_1.31.pdf
I read the first few pages the last time you posted that link !!
If I had all that crap in my yard I could grow a nice crop of something .
RE: Am I allowed to speak? - OpenD - 01-21-2014
quote:
Originally posted by Russell
In a recent editorial, Mr. Richard Ha accused me of conflict of interest because I speak out about GMO issues, claiming I have no right to express my opinion or to vote on such issues because I am in the natural foods business.
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If my advocacy were to somehow be fully successful GMOs would be labeled, as is desired by 90% of the population...
I accept that your advocacy is not a conflict of interest, and that you believe in your position, but I do expect you to be open minded in considering debate and evidence that may rebut your position.
But something I do not understand is why you waste time and money advocating for mandatory GMO labelling, when it's clear no such law can pass Constitutional muster. If it gets passed, it can only fall on appeal.
This point has already been adjudicated in the overturn of the Vermont rBGH labeling law in the 1990s. Absent a compelling pubic interest, people and companies cannot be compelled to say what they don't wish to say, i.e., put a label they don't believe in on the food they produce, because it violates their Freedom of Speech. That's fundamental to our system of democracy.
You are perfectly free to promote a voluntary "GMO Free" labeling program if you wish, but obviously this does not require the expenditure of tax money, and it puts the cost burden where it belongs, on the consumers who are actually willing to pay more to have that label on the food they buy.
RE: Am I allowed to speak? - Guest - 01-22-2014
Would a woman have a conflict of interest for not wanting a rapist in her daycare ?
This GMO thing is about as stupid an argument that I have heard in my life. Its poison. Anyway you look at it. How much poison and its affects is debatable, but at the end of the day, its poison. So, why are we even having a conversation about it ?
RE: Am I allowed to speak? - Wao nahele kane - 01-22-2014
When one actually understands how GMO foods are produced and brought to market they understand that there's only one appropriate label. From a factual legal position this is the proper label for current GM food products.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f7/Biohazard.svg/600px-Biohazard.svg.png
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RE: Am I allowed to speak? - kalakoa - 01-22-2014
Rule #1 in America: Marketing and Sales don't let Facts interefere with Business.
RE: Am I allowed to speak? - Wao nahele kane - 01-22-2014
LOL - yes and in this case what we are actually saying is
" Rule #1 in America: Marketing and Sales don't let Facts interfere with criminal enterprise."
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RE: Am I allowed to speak? - kalakoa - 01-22-2014
quote:
" Rule #1 in America: Marketing and Sales don't let Facts interfere with criminal enterprise."
How convenient that it is the Machinery of the State which determines which enterprises are "criminal" -- the current Insurance regime more than meets the definition, but is somehow magically not labeled as such.
RE: Am I allowed to speak? - rbrgs - 01-22-2014
Was I not clear. DWARF APPLE BANANAS ARE A GMO.