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RE: Limiting number of tourists to help environment - Guest - 01-22-2008
Venice Italy is now trying to limit tourism and tourists!
......“It’s evident that tourism is growing,” the mayor added during an interview on the line’s maiden voyage. “If people want to come to Venice they can come, but we have to allow residents to live better............”As tourism has boomed, the city has considered various proposals to stem the tide of visitors to Venice, from limiting access to the historic center to imposing a tourism tax. But such measures are logistically difficult to impose as well as unpopular with workers in the tourism industry.
Published Today in the New York Times.
I like the idea of a Tourism TAX
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RE: Limiting number of tourists to help environment - Guest - 01-22-2008
...“Tourism continues to be the major contributor to a process of cultural invasion… Such an invasion has left its marks on most island environments… (and those marks can symbolize) the erosion and ultimate death of indigenous island cultures and their value systems.”...
Dr. Konai Helu-Thaman, a Tongan university instructor
Here is an interesting article written more then 15 years ago.
Tourism’s Negative Impact on Native Hawaiians
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RE: Limiting number of tourists to help environment - Bob Orts - 01-22-2008
quote:Just remember, when you step foot off Hawaii, you're the tourist.
Originally posted by Damon
I like the idea of a Tourism TAX
RE: Limiting number of tourists to help environment - Guest - 01-22-2008
quote:
Originally posted by Bob Orts
quote:Just remember, when you step foot off Hawaii, you're the tourist.
Originally posted by Damon
I like the idea of a Tourism TAX
And that would be just fine with me[
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RE: Limiting number of tourists to help environment - Bob Orts - 01-22-2008
I guess the bigger question is who do you propose this tax impacts?
All non-residents who disembark from a plane or ship?
Foreigners?
Some foreigners
Certain Foreigners?
Including US Citizens
Not including US Citizens?
Friends?
Family?
Visiting educators?
Visiting Doctors?
Exemptions for or no exemption for funerals?
Native Hawaiians who happen to live on the mainland for work?
RE: Limiting number of tourists to help environment - Guest - 01-22-2008
quote:
Originally posted by Bob Orts
I guess the bigger question is who do you propose this tax impacts?...
Any NON-Resident of the State of Hawaii.[
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RE: Limiting number of tourists to help environment - Aaron S - 01-22-2008
Damon, your proposal has so my unintended consequences.Read Bob Orts
latest post again. Actually you may want to read it a couple times.
On top of that Hawaii is already a tax hell. Adding this "tax" will
simply perpetuate this stigma.
RE: Limiting number of tourists to help environment - punafish - 01-22-2008
I’m all for diversifying Hawaii’s economy, but the notion of limiting the number of tourists to help Hawaii’s environment is naïve, reckless and irresponsible. Correct me if I’m wrong, but wouldn’t the residents of Hawaii have more control over “helping the environment” than tourists? Here’s an idea: how about WE (the residents) take responsibility instead of pointing fingers at tourists? So many things we can do, from improving our recycling system to educating our children (and tourists?) on respecting the land, etc.
Unless you hunt, fish, grow your own veggies and live in a tent, limiting tourism will adversely affect your quality of life here. As stated in a previous post, oil prices will probably bring about your desired result. Be careful what you wish for.
RE: Limiting number of tourists to help environment - oink - 01-22-2008
I'm supprised Hawaii doesn't already have a tourist tax. I think they are commonly called a bed tax at least they are in Florida. I believe in most places in FL the rental agreement has to exceed 6 months to avoid paying the tax. It's a local county tax and the revenue commonly goes largely back into developing the tourism industry.
I was working in the tourism industry in Hawaii when the recession hit in the 70s. The recession hit Hawaii's tourism industry late but when it hit, it hit hard. It's the reason I left Hawaii. No work. Lets pray that we don't have a repeat performance. It will hurt almost everyone.
Pua`a
S. FL
Big Islander to be.
RE: Limiting number of tourists to help environment - mgeary - 01-22-2008
There is a bed tax, oink. It's almost 12%. The least expensive hotels and condos (the ones I can afford, run $700-1,400) per week, and the more upscale hotels and condos, the weekly rates run from $3,000 to whatever you're willing to spend. 12% of $1,000 is, er, um, lots. ;-)
"In Hawaii, accommodations are subject to a maximum total tax of 11.962% consisting of a Transient Accommodation Tax (TAT) of 7.25%, a General Excise Tax (GET) of 4.16%, plus a Honolulu County Surcharge Tax (CST) of 0.552% applicable to Oahu only."
http://www.alternative-hawaii.com/accr.htm
Maui has recently created an additional tax for timeshares, I understand, equal to half the daily maintenance fee for the timeshare.
http://www.hawaiireporter.com/story.aspx?d7457d26-4306-41ee-9f2c-57a4446b09df
Lastly, here's the applicable law:
http://www.mauimapp.com/government/hrs237d.htm
How do I know?