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RE: AlohaSafe Alert COVID Tracker - TomK - 02-26-2021
There are roughly 330 million people in the US. Let's assume half that number has cell phones. Let's assume half of those people actually text or call daily. Assuming one call or text a day from those remaining, that's roughly 80 million texts and calls that need tracking. How many people are required to listen to those calls or read the text messages?
Now, add in twitface and facefarce. Then there's the gramophone insta service and all sorts of other sites, like Punaweb, where people can post their opinions.
Unless the US Government recruits just about everyone in the US, whatever you say on the internet is unlikely to get you stalked, probed or whatever you think the FBI might do. I say this with a disclaimer - I do not know what space aliens might do at their landing sight near Kalapana.
RE: AlohaSafe Alert COVID Tracker - kalakoa - 02-26-2021
Missing the point. Content isn't necessary 99.9% of the time. Metadata can be used to build a database of connections ("degrees of separation") that can be queried at any time; endpoints can be anything with a phone number, not just a cell. Location information is just icing on the cake.
TL;DR: stalking isn't active, it's passive, and retroactive.
RE: AlohaSafe Alert COVID Tracker - eightfingers2.0 - 02-26-2021
So what’s up with the black box in Tiger Woods’ car?
RE: AlohaSafe Alert COVID Tracker - leilanidude - 02-26-2021
How many people are required to listen to those calls or read the text messages?
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Very few. We have this thing called AI - artificial intelligence.
RE: AlohaSafe Alert COVID Tracker - Obie - 02-26-2021
"So what’s up with the black box in Tiger Woods’ car?"
Just about every vehicle has this black box. It's just a data recorder section of the OBD computer.
I imagine the manufacturers put them in to protect themselves in lawsuits. They can prove that their vehicle preformed correctly.
They are not required by an government agency.
RE: AlohaSafe Alert COVID Tracker - TomK - 02-27-2021
(02-26-2021, 06:10 PM)leilanidude Wrote: How many people are required to listen to those calls or read the text messages?
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Very few. We have this thing called AI - artificial intelligence.
Yes, that's why a chess enthusiast was banned by Youtube because he posted words such as black, white, attack and defend. Obviously, AI is doing a great job without human intervention.
(02-26-2021, 06:06 PM)kalakoa Wrote: Missing the point. Content isn't necessary 99.9% of the time. Metadata can be used to build a database of connections ("degrees of separation") that can be queried at any time; endpoints can be anything with a phone number, not just a cell. Location information is just icing on the cake.
TL;DR: stalking isn't active, it's passive, and retroactive.
How am I missing the point? Why would the government look at most people's email, tweets, FB posts and all the other social media sites? How do they benefit from that? I receive and send lots of email every day and I couldn't give a toss if the government is reading them but mostly because I'm fairly certain they aren't being read by anyone other than the recipients.
I'll now say "domestic terrorist insurgent" here and if punaweb is shut down, well, my apologies to Rob, I'll make it up to him. The paranoia here is very disturbing.
RE: AlohaSafe Alert COVID Tracker - SBH - 02-27-2021
The paranoia here is very disturbing.
I tried to join Paranoid Anonymous but they wouldn’t tell me where they meet.
RE: AlohaSafe Alert COVID Tracker - randomq - 02-27-2021
I think over the past two decades we've learned that our government spies on us incessantly (as do large tech companies). The paranoia is not that it is happening, but that it is actually likely to affect you. Doesn't mean we shouldn't push back on lawmakers, and doesn't mean innocent people don't occasionally get swept up into an investigation they have no part in. And as Kalakoa says, who knows what a future administration will do with all the relationship and keyword data.
TomK, I'll see you at our sovereign citizen militia meeting this evening. Still not sure you qualify, but as long as you keep supplying the black market goods we'll let you in.
RE: AlohaSafe Alert COVID Tracker - My 2 cents - 02-27-2021
A few years ago I had the lovely experience of 2 truckloads of DEA agents parking in front of my driveway, climbing over my locked gate and searching my greenhouse for pot. When I confronted them and asked if they had a warrant they said "no, but it's ok because you don't have any plants".
It seems that we have evolved (devolved?) to the point where many folks think this is ok. If you are not doing anything illegal then you have nothing to hide, no problem.
I didn't think it was ok then, and still don't. I know it's not exactly the same thing, but where exactly is the line for invasion of privacy drawn? Am I paranoid because I would like my right to privacy to be respected?
RE: AlohaSafe Alert COVID Tracker - kalakoa - 02-27-2021
They are not required by an government agency.
Correct: data recorders are an "implied requirement" from the insurance companies. Social media, search engines, and insurance companies are in many ways more powerful and more dangerous than government, mostly because they're allowed to do things the government "can't".
How do they benefit from that?
I'll give you a hint: it's not about "national security".
over the past two decades we've learned that our government spies on us incessantly
Passive defense strategy: "peeing in the stream" -- generate so much data that they can't figure out which pieces are "intelligence".