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RE: Roundup (cancer causing substance) cases underway - glinda - 06-23-2019
Quoting out of context can substantially change the meaning, perhaps more to your liking.
‘Tis an art hereabout.
RE: Roundup (cancer causing substance) cases underway - PaulW - 06-23-2019
"However, when glyphosate reaches rivers and streams, it is very toxic to aquatic life"
News to me. Or am I taking this out of context too? Hard to trust a website with typos, btw.
RE: Roundup (cancer causing substance) cases underway - ElysianWort - 06-23-2019
it is very toxic to aquatic life"
News to me. Or am I taking this out of context too?
There's a lot of studies and scientific evidence out there. Glad you were able to learn something today Paul. The author of the report btw is named Paul too.
https://www.intechopen.com/books/toxicity-and-hazard-of-agrochemicals/ecotoxicology-of-glyphosate-and-glyphosate-based-herbicides-toxicity-to-wildlife-and-humans
"A comet assay was applied to identify DNA damage in blood cells during both exposure and post-exposure periods. Guilherme et al. [12] reported that Roundup® has genotoxic potential and exhibited oxidative DNA damage (pyrimidine bases oxidation), although a recovery was evident when considering non-specific DNA damage on day 14 post exposure. Roundup® was able to induce a late oxidative DNA damage (day 14). In the report, Guilherme et al. suggested that blood cells of A. anguilla exposed to Roundup® appeared to be more successful in repairing damage with a non-specific cause than that associated with base oxidation [12]. Overall, the findings of this study reinforce the hypothesis that Roundup® as an agrochemical may cause long-lasting damage to fish due to genotoxicity."
RE: Roundup (cancer causing substance) cases underway - rainyjim - 06-24-2019
Some words of advice when trying to interpret scientific findings outside of your training...
Words (or phrases) like: may, might, would, could, seem, possibly, potentially should all stand out as red flags when used in conjunction with anything remotely scientific. When you go to scientist school (har har) one of the first thing they teach you is to never touch these words even with a 40 ft pole. Scientific writing should be as definitive as possible - readers of scientific writing don’t care what may, might, would, could, seem, possibly, potentially have happened, they care about evidence based off of a (this part is very important; take notes) body of research and NOT any single study.
I hope this was helpful, now i’ll retire to drink my daily glass of glyphosate (oops I meant Koolaid)
RE: Roundup (cancer causing substance) cases underway - HereOnThePrimalEdge - 06-25-2019
Fear has spread like a crop duster flying on a day with 50 mph winds (not used as directed). “They” now want everything banned at schools. At least until their kids come home and report cockaroches all over the place.
Now many in the community want Hawaii’s public schools to take that law a step further by banning all pesticides and herbicides on school campuses.
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2019/06/25/vague-guidelines-pesticide-use-schools-has-community-calling-change/
Stay away from negative people, they have a problem for every solution. - Albert Einstein
RE: Roundup (cancer causing substance) cases underway - kalakoa - 06-25-2019
"They" now want everything banned at schools.
Think of it as guaranteed employment. Which we can pay for with a small tax increase.
RE: Roundup (cancer causing substance) cases underway - HereOnThePrimalEdge - 06-25-2019
a small tax increase.
Why a tax increase? Taxpayers already pay for kids in school. Astute principals can institute an Extra Credit Cockaroach Bounty. 15 cockaroaches and that D becomes a C-. May better hold the attention of some in the classroom too.
Stay away from negative people, they have a problem for every solution. - Albert Einstein
RE: Roundup (cancer causing substance) cases underway - ElysianWort - 06-25-2019
Now many in the community want Hawaii’s public schools to take that law a step further by banning all pesticides and herbicides on school campuses.
Absolutely. I agree. Ban it from schools. Our keiki don't need to be exposed to it. If there are some of you parents out there that don't mind Roundup, keep in mind that there are also parents that are against it and their kids should not have to be subjected to it. I remember going to school here in the 80s and smelling it on days when the janitors were spraying. (yes HOTPE it has a certain distinctive smell)
And also btw there are alternative safer pesticides to kill roaches. (Safer than the products currently being used.)
RE: Roundup (cancer causing substance) cases underway - HereOnThePrimalEdge - 06-25-2019
there are alternative safer pesticides
Yes, there are alternatives.
But the article stated parents wanted ALL pesticides & herbicides banned.
Because of fear over news reports about the Roundup court cases.
This is how irrational fear is initiated and then spreads:
* There is a court case about Roundup & cancer, therefore all herbicides & pesticides probably cause cancer and should be banned
* People who spilled undiluted Roundup on themselves later developed cancer, therefore all people exposed in any way in any concentration of Roundup will develop cancer.
Stay away from negative people, they have a problem for every solution. - Albert Einstein
RE: Roundup (cancer causing substance) cases underway - glinda - 06-25-2019
This is how irrational fear is initiated and then spreads:
And you make this silly stuff up because?