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RE: TMT construction begins Monday 15 July - MarkP - 07-23-2019

quote:
Originally posted by TomK

"One has to wonder, when even kalakoa resorts to innuendo and mistruths, how far have we fallen?"

I was wondering the exact same thing, except it wasn't about kalakoa, but the protesters who tried to blackmail Maunakea Observatories today. And if you think that's a strong word, then you should have heard the actual responses from senior observatory staff which couldn't possibly be aired publicly.

When you have Kanuha running after an observatory vehicle because he knows his bargaining chip is leaving, you know he realized that he had f*cked up.

Sorry, this is unclear to me. Can you elaborate?




RE: TMT construction begins Monday 15 July - Obie - 07-24-2019

"What would happen if protestors set up lawn chairs at the entrances to Target, Safeway, and Home Depot? All are on DHHL properties. What if a group of Hawaiians wanted to practice their culture and religion in the parking lot? Or protest their lack of a homestead while DHHL caters to big box mainland corporations?"

This has been mentioned on the social media sites along with taking over the airport.


RE: TMT construction begins Monday 15 July - HereOnThePrimalEdge - 07-24-2019

mentioned on the social media sites along with taking over the airport.

I hadn’t seen that Obie. Is it often, or with any seriousness? It just struck me as a logical progression, especially as DHHL is probably the greatest roadblock for Hawaiian self-determination at the moment. What could empower a family more than their own home and property, and the independence which results from personal decision making that’s a part of it?


RE: TMT construction begins Monday 15 July - dan d - 07-24-2019

So josh visits and says a tradegy will happen if it continues do to the weather causing the kapuna to get chilled? Wear a jacket .

And the person that stopped the gemini crew from going up. To fix the scope. After they decided to drive away, She implored them to not have nat gaurd come visit.

Thats what they are afraid of. Use em ,just like any other protest.

Time to move the corridor back 100 yds from the intersection , should i have to drive hamakua today and burn more gas ,that i dont have the. MOney for?
NO I SHOULD NOT
Aloha

Where is my prote tion?


HPP


RE: TMT construction begins Monday 15 July - Obie - 07-24-2019


"I hadn’t seen that Obie. Is it often, or with any seriousness?"




Who knows . Anything is possible, this whole thing was spread on social media.

The rumors and lies keep getting repeated over and over.


RE: TMT construction begins Monday 15 July - ironyak - 07-24-2019

"What would happen if protestors set up lawn chairs at the entrances to Target, Safeway, and Home Depot? All are on DHHL properties.

From what I have seen on this, it's not about protesting DHHL, but rather an extension of demonstrating sovereignty on "their land". Why haggle with DHHL over the price and availability of apples when you can upset the whole cart?


RE: TMT construction begins Monday 15 July - ironyak - 07-24-2019

rainyjim - This Jim Albertini? Same as the one arrested kupuna?

Yes, that is Jim Albertini. Been around 30+ years, protesting a variety of issues such as PGV, PTA, etc... and seen often in Hilo each week protesting at the Federal Building. You really do need to get out more!


RE: TMT construction begins Monday 15 July - Obie - 07-24-2019

The Governor has a comment and poll on the TMT.

https://governor.hawaii.gov/contact-us/comments-on-mauna-kea/?fbclid=IwAR3CKRY9nwYrBEKFSYqukZh290hlqx3J2Zv8gSkFGzysEKe6E094yzSDcn4




RE: TMT construction begins Monday 15 July - HereOnThePrimalEdge - 07-24-2019

The Governor has a comment and poll on the TMT.

The poll asks if you’re not a robot, but it doesn’t ask whether you live in Hawaii.
Which is a factor worth noting don’t you think?
Even if it’s self identified and noted in the results as:
% Hawaii residents who oppose
% total respondents who oppose


RE: TMT construction begins Monday 15 July - knieft - 07-24-2019

quote:
Originally posted by Obie

The Governor has a comment and poll..



That’s not a poll.

How many times can I vote?

Cheers,
Kirt