(10-13-2021, 07:40 PM)kander Wrote:

(10-13-2021, 06:49 PM)MyManao Wrote:

(10-13-2021, 05:57 PM)kander Wrote: This statement will not age well..

I'm still at a loss, kander, to explain what you are afraid of. Would you care to elaborate?

Its not fear.

(10-12-2021, 10:40 PM)AaronM Wrote: I suspect history will judge this period harshly.

A time when we sacrificed our youth in order to briefly prolong the lives of the sick and the aged.

Youth who have suffered increased rates of suicide, drug abuse and mental illness.

Youth who have suffered increased abuse, hunger and neglect.

Youth who have had their educations stunted, and their futures derailed.

We have mortgaged our future so that the Me Generation can have one more hurrah.
In 20 years they will largely be gone but the impact of their selfishness will last.

(10-14-2021, 12:36 PM)TomK Wrote:

(10-12-2021, 10:40 PM)AaronM Wrote: I suspect history will judge this period harshly.

A time when we sacrificed our youth in order to briefly prolong the lives of the sick and the aged.

Youth who have suffered increased rates of suicide, drug abuse and mental illness.

Youth who have suffered increased abuse, hunger and neglect.

Youth who have had their educations stunted, and their futures derailed.

We have mortgaged our future so that the Me Generation can have one more hurrah.
In 20 years they will largely be gone but the impact of their selfishness will last.

I agree history will judge things harshly, but for different reasons. It'll be the Facebook era. All the stuff that the older generations want to pass onto the younger generations is now overwhelmed by stupid and ignorant stuff on social media. We're now back in an era where people believe in a flat earth, we're being visited by extra-terrestrials, space doesn't exist, US elections are fraudulent, vaccines don't work, we're in injected with microchips, the government is watching everyone and we didn't land on the moon.

(10-14-2021, 11:26 AM)TomK Wrote: Then why argue against vaccinations? If you aren't fearful of them, what is the reason you're arguing against taking them? It can't be a scientific reason, the evidence is already in that you are significantly less likely to die or be hospitalized from Covid if you are vaccinated. If it's the side-effects of the vaccine, then once again evidence shows that being vaccinated is much safer than being unvaccinated. If it's simply because you know some people who were vaccinated but became ill, then show how Covid vaccines caused the illnesses. I've asked this before but you didn't provide the evidence.

(10-15-2021, 12:16 AM)kander Wrote:

(10-14-2021, 11:26 AM)TomK Wrote: Then why argue against vaccinations? If you aren't fearful of them, what is the reason you're arguing against taking them? It can't be a scientific reason, the evidence is already in that you are significantly less likely to die or be hospitalized from Covid if you are vaccinated. If it's the side-effects of the vaccine, then once again evidence shows that being vaccinated is much safer than being unvaccinated. If it's simply because you know some people who were vaccinated but became ill, then show how Covid vaccines caused the illnesses. I've asked this before but you didn't provide the evidence.

There is evidence, but its being largely ignored. An ICU physician in California sent a letter to the FDA voicing her concerns about what she was seeing. After the FDA largely ignored it she retained a legal firm who did get the FDA's attention, but instead of having an FDA doctor or scientist respond they responded with their public relations people. This is the letters that were sent. (on Siri/Gilmstad legal Website)

https://www.sirillp.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/Letter-Regarding-Covid-19-Vaccine-Injuries-Dr-Patricia-Lee.pdf

And of course, when people die, there is no legal recourse. they were adults, they can decide to take the vax or not.

Edit.

Now as far as the reasoning why these horrific death's and lifelong debilitating symptoms are happening is not my forte, Usually with most vaccines that go through years of trials and data, kinda like what pfizer is having to do with its comiranty vaccine. the data doesnt exist for the ones in use right now.

(10-15-2021, 12:42 AM)kalakoa Wrote: I think it's safe to assume that the next pandemic will be worse. Will it be 3-5 years or more like 15-20? Will we ever know "the truth" about COVID or the vaccines? Do we have enough time to keep arguing until we're dead? Is this why I moved to Hawaii?

(10-16-2021, 02:31 PM)kander Wrote: There is evidence for what, that the vaccines are more dangerous than Covid?


Maybe? Time will tell if more people start dropping dead from covax syndrome.
Reluctance to getting the jab just amplifies when,
They bribe you to get it,
Guilt trip you to get it,
Threaten you to get it,
Mandate you to get it,
and my favorite having unhinged old men scream and tell you are scared.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1448672447381782531

(10-16-2021, 02:31 PM)kander Wrote: There is evidence for what, that the vaccines are more dangerous than Covid?


Maybe? Time will tell if more people start dropping dead from covax syndrome...

(10-16-2021, 02:54 PM)TomK Wrote: Your answer was "maybe?".