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RE: HPP road maintainence - My 2 cents - 02-27-2017
quote:
Originally posted by kalakoa
lawyer's fees for such a suit would start at $12,000
Even if this figure is off by a factor of 10, it's still a bargain, because it's basically a one-time cost.
One-time? This would be the 2nd time that I am aware of, and the fact that it needs to be done again shows that the first time didn't work, so where is the guarantee that this fix will be permanent?.
RE: HPP road maintainence - leo - 02-27-2017
When was the first time?
RE: HPP road maintainence - kalakoa - 02-27-2017
where is the guarantee that this fix will be permanent?
Point taken. I would like to believe this new effort really goes the distance to finish a permanent fix. I would go so far as to suggest that "hire a professional management company" isn't quite permanent enough; "work with County to create an appropriate SID" seems like it would be nearly impossible for a future HPPOA to undo.
Admittedly: a SID would probably be more expensive due to public sector overhead issues, but this is also an opportunity for County to settle the "privately owned public road" problem, ideally with some public subsidy for subdivision road SIDs.
only about $1.50 per lot, it is still a formidable sum
Even at $15/lot, it's cheap insurance if it forces the other $300 to be spent fairly.
RE: HPP road maintainence - My 2 cents - 02-27-2017
quote:
Originally posted by leo
When was the first time?
I can't remember exactly, I'll guess 2000-2004. It was for 4 years. It was handled by a real estate company. There couldn't be a bigger conflict of interest, imo. They completely revamped the bylaws...I guess they need to be revised again? Added foreclosure (illegal) to satisfy the bonding company. How has that worked out? Obviously, I am not a big fan of receivership.
RE: HPP road maintainence - Obie - 02-27-2017
quote:
Originally posted by leo
When was the first time?
1996
Do any of you posting here know what that was all about ?
You can find the court case here :
http://hoohiki.courts.hawaii.gov/#/case?caseId=3CC960000038
BOB LERRO VS PARADISE HUI HANALIKE ET AL
case id 3CC960000038
From reading the court record and meeting minutes from then it looks like it cost HPP thousands in court fees and fees to the temporary master.This thing drug on for 4 1/2 years and the end result was a re-write of the bylaws to require all money collected to be used for roads.
RE: HPP road maintainence - leo - 02-27-2017
and the end result was a re-write of the bylaws to require all money collected to be used for roads.
RE: HPP road maintainence - sistersue - 02-28-2017
I've been paying the "roads fee" for 29 years and my road still isn't paved. A relative of mine in Orchidland has stopped paying her roads fee. Will they put a lien on her house? Considering the amount of houses in HPP, they must have collected enough money over 29 years to build a highway by now. What happens if I stop paying? $313. this year now seems like I'm just throwing it away. Thanks for any suggestions.
RE: HPP road maintainence - leo - 02-28-2017
sistersue, scroll through this thread. It's been discussed on previous pages.
RE: HPP road maintainence - macuu222 - 02-28-2017
Amazing.... They came today with a mower and did the easement on both sides of my street on 5th. Miracles do happen!
RE: HPP road maintainence - leo - 02-28-2017
quote:page 38 sistersue
Originally posted by leo
sistersue, scroll through this thread. It's been discussed on previous pages.