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RE: Food Inflation - dmbwest - 07-13-2013
Thinning in what sense ?
RE: Food Inflation - Guest - 07-13-2013
quote:
Originally posted by kalakoa
(...and I quote...) "You people with the money and the power, you think you can just own and control everything."
Right?
Well sorta. We live in a representative Democracy, where the masses have voted in favor of control over and over again. Just look at this forum, most people here are victims of the dialectic and believe they are smart enough to understand and control everything. As long as we confine ourselves to groups and pit the groups against each other with violence(control) then we will go nowhere. We need to start thinking as independent individuals with responsibility to ourselves, our family and our local communities. Stop thinking in terms of groups and start thinking about individuals. Step outside of the dialectic, both sides are controlled. Sun Tzu Art of War, first step is to create and control your opposition, that way you confine people to easily controlled groups, or the dialectic as Plato put it. Its not until you are outside of the cave that you will get the evidence to prove that the shadow dialectic was bull****, whichever side you took.
RE: Food Inflation - Rob Tucker - 07-13-2013
Keep it Hawaii folks.
Assume the best and ask questions.
Punaweb moderator
RE: Food Inflation - Guest - 07-13-2013
Sorry Rob. However this knowledge is not specific to any location, its just about people, like the people that live in Hawaii.
RE: Food Inflation - Sue Nomie - 07-13-2013
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXDSksjGNCA
Check out this tree. Ask your Filipino neighbors about this tree.
It grows very well in Puna.
Also, look up Thrive Freeze dried foods with a 25 yr shelf life too.
HEY, It's NOT Soylent Green.;-) Hope we don't come to that!
RE: Food Inflation - Carey - 07-13-2013
Carol, Thanks for the suggestions on the tiles resources...
I was just kinda amazed that things like selection & product prices on the mainland were not so different from here...even in the big (DRY & HOT) city...choices were down & prices were up...from this very limited comparison...rather be back here than there...
& to bring this back to the prices...it does seem like prices hare have gone up...and also on the mainland... so there must be something, added to the Matson shipping increases, that has had an effect on the retail prices.... which will effect the buying power & choices most of us make.
RE: Food Inflation - nani1970 - 07-13-2013
quote:
Originally posted by unknownjulie
Just for the sake of argument. Let's say a working poor person was paying into the social security system to support the aging baby boomers who are hoarding resources. Let's say that person had children that qualified for "free school lunches" because someone in some gov't entity understood what was going on. Is that young person with the family really actually receiving assistance? Or does it only appear that way?
When did the people born between 1946 and 1964 (baby boomers), become the hoarders of the resources?
Some of us have worked our rears of for over 40 years supporting kids, families,
and paying for just about everybody and everything.
Some of these hoarders finally just got to even think about retiring, although some of us
will probably just have to keep working until we drop dead.
RE: Food Inflation - jlgerk - 07-13-2013
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FOOD FIGHT !!
RE: Food Inflation - unknownjulie - 07-13-2013
This is a generalization of course, but statistics show that boomers are controlling large amounts of wealth/resources in this country- including jobs! They are hoarding jobs that could go to younger people. It's well documented. I just think it's backwards. I want to die penniless and have my heirs wealthy, employed and successful. I do not want to "have to downsize" because I've been hoarding my entire life. I do not want a large house where my grown kids live unemployed while I pay all the bills. No thankyou! I want a tiny house. A house that my children are itching to leave and embark on their own journey to "make their mark on the world". I want to live with them in their houses when I am old! Not the other way around. I do not want "people kissing up to me because I am rich and might leave them something". I just absolutely to not want to live the way I see so many boomers living. And I also do not agree that boomers have "worked harder than younger generations and therefore deserve everything that they have". I believe there was a lot of luck involved. Luck about being born at a certain time, in a certain country. I do not believe the wealth that so many boomers have come to expect is due to any "special qualities" that other generations do not share. I think this world has gotten harder and harder, and I think it will be harder still for my grandchildren. The world currencies are equilibrating. The world labor markets will also equilibrate. Other nations are rising, as the US is sinking. Dont get me wrong. I love this country. I still think it's the greatest. IT is just harder for the younger people right now to get ahead and I do not appreciate boomers who had it so much easier. to feel "they have the right" to lecture. This is related to Hawaii because of the large disparities here between the wealth of the older retirees, and the younger people here trying to make it.
RE: Food Inflation - HereOnThePrimalEdge - 07-13-2013
quote:Some baby boomers came to San Francisco and wore flowers in their hair. Some went to Vietnam. 50,000 of them didn't return alive.
Originally posted by unknownjulie
I do not appreciate boomers who had it so much easier.
We bought gas for $.29 a gallon in the 1960's. In the 1970's and 80's we waited in lines that went around the block just to get a 1/4 tank of gas.
Interest rates in those years were 18% for a mortgage.
If you had enough money to invest in the stock market in the 90's you probably did pretty well. For the rest of us, we paid into Social Security, which at best gives us about a 3% return on our investment. Most boomers who paid into Social Security would get on average 200% - 300% more in their monthly retirement check if they had been able to invest the money themselves, rather than have the government take care of it for us.
Boomers that I know who still work aren't hoarding a job, they're working because the value of their home is half of what it was in 2008, and their 401k (if they have one) for a time was also about half of what it was in 2008.
Boomers who don't have a job to hang on to, are told when they apply for work that they are too old, even if they're 10 years away from retirement age.
For baby boomers it was the best of times, it was the worst of times.