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RE: The weather here is so unfathomable. - Kapoho Joe - 04-23-2018
Deep Thoughts by Jack Handy.
RE: The weather here is so unfathomable. - Guest - 04-23-2018
What kind of epoxy you using 1v ?
ETA: Kenny, have you looked @ rust converters?
These work REALLY well.
Scrape/grind, apply converter. Then go with epoxy primer before top coat.
The extra step is worth it for long term.
aloha,
rwr
RE: The weather here is so unfathomable. - 1voyager1 - 04-23-2018
@RWR
I picked up a gallon of penetrating epoxy plus hardener from a marina store over in Kona near COSTCO.
Cost was about $150, if memory serves me.
I usually add a little of a solvent to thin it some more to get even better penetration.
A little strength will be lost, but it is not of concern in this application.
I've used it for replacing the roof on our spas' pergola as well as the small house roof repair I just did, and will be using it for replacing the roofs on our front and rear lanais.
More time consuming, but I will not need to disassemble and reinstall new rafters and other structural wood.
I may need to replace the fascia material.
We'll see when it dries out enough for me to start that phase of the project.
The rotted areas need to dry out before applying the epoxy.
I've used epoxy before to repair massive dry rot in cantilever beams with very good results.
These small rot pockets are a piece of cake in comparison.
RE: The weather here is so unfathomable. - Kenney - 04-23-2018
We’re originally from the Northwest too Voyager, so the rain here feels warm to us. We love it.
Yes, RWR , a rust converter is the first step in our plan for extending the life of our tank. It’s just starting to rust where the overflow was cracked, and went unnoticed. We’re going to try Ospho, after a good cleaning and sanding. Then we will give the tank a good painting. Epoxy is primer a good idea too. Mahalo.
We just finished first aid on our back dough boy. The liner is still good after a decade, but the rails were all rusty so we replaced them. The frame is going too, but it’s still a good place for the dogs to exercise and cool down, and we can use the water to keep the back green during droughts.
Our motto is if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. Replace it when it’s all used up.
Home Maintenance is never ending, but a satisfying and enjoyable pastime, especially in such a beautiful place.
RE: The weather here is so unfathomable. - Guest - 04-24-2018
Yes yes on the dry out ,,Your one day repair had me worried. Wanted to say that BC the wood might look dry but its not, epoxy will sort of seal it in and moisture inhibits cure too.
I know you know this but just wanted to say it.
If you can, keep the epoxy indoors and even inside an old cooler. Some of the formulas are really moisture sensitive. Even @ Kona Marine, you will see many can have rust on them already.
A good way to extra penetration is get the resin on as the day is still warm but cooling. Hardening has to kick in still but if you can juggle the time, you can get better results and no out gassing as the wood will sort of 'inhale' it vs. going for it as the day heats up.
RE: The weather here is so unfathomable. - 1voyager1 - 04-24-2018
@RWR
I had covered that bad corner of the roof with a 6'X10' tarp for a few weeks to protect it from the rains.
Between the tarp and the metal roof, the purlins and rafters were somewhat "baked dry" by any solar radiation that did hit them.
The sun the day before yesterday was my signal to get the epoxy applied.
It had set up by yesterday and was ready for the new screws to be installed.
The rains started up again just as I was installing the last screw.
The gutter had to be rehung in the rain.
We now have 100% of the roof's runoff going into the tank again.
My tank floweth over.
I'm thinking of doing similar to the back lanai, covering a portion of the roof with a tarp to let those purlins and rafters dry out, then tenting the roof's structure so I can remove the roof panels and get the epoxy applied to the structural members.
It would have to be done in stages.
That lanai is 11'X60' long.
I'm hoping the weather will break soon to make the remaining job easier to get done.
I haven't worked off a ladder for a long time.
I was woke up this morning by a charlie-horse in my calf.
I hate it when that happens!
It tends to ruin a potentially good day.
RE: The weather here is so unfathomable. - Guest - 04-24-2018
Way to fill the day 1V.
Hope the Barge worked too !
Better sleep with your feet close to the wall for an emergency stretch/lean : )
RE: The weather here is so unfathomable. - My 2 cents - 04-24-2018
PLENTY of water helps in the short/immediate term, magnesium for the long term/preparation, i.e., if you are planning a bunch of ladder work tomorrow, take some today.
RE: The weather here is so unfathomable. - kalakoa - 04-24-2018
Homeopathic "Leg Cramps" tablets. These don't work for everyone, but if they work for you, they are magical, I get relief in a couple of minutes.
RE: The weather here is so unfathomable. - 1voyager1 - 04-24-2018
Haven't used the Barge yet.
I've still got to cleanup the area on the sole I'll be applying the cement to.
I'm using my water shoes where I need more protection for my feet.
I have always been subject to foot and toe cramps ever since I was a kid.
My standard way of dealing with those and leg cramps is walk it out.
Then, apply heat, which I will do tonight before calling it a day.
I will be doing some ladder work today.
I want to clean out the gutter along the back lanai today, rain or shine.
While still in AK, M'Lady made me up a couple of cow-corn bags.
They look like a small pillow but are filled with the large corn kernels that are used as cattle feed.
She bought a 50# bag at a feed store to make 2 small cloth bags.
She ended up throwing 49.5# away.
Then, I nuke them for a minute or two.
They make a very nice moist heat pack.
That, by itself, was enough to make her a keeper.
Just in case anyone was wondering how to inject epoxy into a nail hole under a steel roof panel:
I have refilled my inkjet cartridges for years.
I have several sets of syringes for doing that.
I bought a box of drink stirring straws off Amazon, heated one end with a hair dryer and stretched it over the tip of the syringe, then cut it off to the length I needed.
Then, I draw the mixed epoxy into the syringe and insert the end of the straw through the hole in the roof panel into the nail hole and inject the epoxy into it.
Worked very nicely.
I'm off to clean the back lanai's gutter.