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RE: Fireworks explosion kills three women on Oahu - kalakoa - 01-07-2025
How about prosecuting them for involuntary manslaughter?
Hawaii doesn't have "rule of law" so any prosecution is a non-starter.
RE: Fireworks explosion kills three women on Oahu - TomK - 01-08-2025
(01-07-2025, 08:11 PM)Patricia Wrote: That's ridiculous. I made no such "implication" and you are inferring meaning that was not there. I was referring to how, historically, conquering civilizations pick and choose what is "acceptable." At the time (the late 18th, early 19th centuries) when Western Europeans and Americans established themselves in the Hawaiian islands, human sacrifice was a practice of the past FOR THEM. They had "evolved" (so the theory goes). Human sacrifice was (IS) considered NEVER correct in "civilized" cultures (currently).
I still think you don't understand what you posted, and now your answer is just too confusing and self-contradictory. I also still don't know what a "Western more" is.
RE: Fireworks explosion kills three women on Oahu - HereOnThePrimalEdge - 01-10-2025
The department wants to establish an Explosion Enforcement Section with six investigators and four staff. Currently, the Illegal Fireworks Task Force only has two narcotics enforcement investigators.
Confiscating illegal fireworks is just part of the battle. Lowe told lawmakers that it costs over $1 million to dispose of 140,000 pounds of fireworks.
https://www.hawaiipublicradio.org/local-news/2025-01-08/department-of-law-enforcement-combat-illegal-fireworks
There are people in HPP who would “dispose” of any amount of fireworks for less than $1 million.
RE: Fireworks explosion kills three women on Oahu - HiloJulie - 01-10-2025
"There are people in HPP who would “dispose” of any amount of fireworks for less than $1 million."
No truer words have ever been spoken on PunaWeb!
Looks like they are looking for 8 million in total to fund a new lab and a whole new division within HPD.
My take is I am all in, as long as at the same time the funding is approved, the law(s) be changed for buying, selling, smuggling, possessing or using "illegal" fireworks to a full arrest, not a citation and the law(s) is/are made a full Class A Felony, which cannot be plea bargained down, deferred away or in any other manner reduced and punishment is a mandatory sentence of up to 20 years with no parole eligibility.
If we are going to have the taxpayers cough up another 8 million and still get 94% of citations dropped, then my response would be to pound salt.
Call it the "Cassius Ramos-Benigno" Law.
RE: Fireworks explosion kills three women on Oahu - Punatang - 01-10-2025
I also still don't know what a "Western more" is.
I'm pretty sure they invaded Spain, Tom.
RE: Fireworks explosion kills three women on Oahu - TomK - 01-10-2025
Ah, I understand now. You mean the Moors from North Africa. It's not people from the west who want more things.
RE: Fireworks explosion kills three women on Oahu - Punatang - 01-11-2025
Mas o menos.
RE: Fireworks explosion kills three women on Oahu - TomK - 01-11-2025
Patricia - since you started this minor controversy, can you clarify things? Did you mean people who want more or the Moors?
RE: Fireworks explosion kills three women on Oahu - leilanidude - 01-15-2025
for the dense...
Mores are the customs, norms, and behaviors that are acceptable to a society or social group.
the essential or characteristic customs and conventions of a community.
"an offense against social mores"
RE: Fireworks explosion kills three women on Oahu - HiloJulie - 01-16-2025
"for the dense..."
"Mores are the customs, norms, and behaviors that are acceptable to a society or social group."
"the essential or characteristic customs and conventions of a community."
""an offense against social mores""
So, then, based on that more or less being the definition of the term "mores" in the context as used, it's also appropriate then to say that one of the "Hawaiian Mores" is blasting tens of thousands of illegal fireworks off on July 4th and especially December 31st each year, and killing, maiming and significantly injuring and disfiguring people is acceptable to that "social mores."
Yeah, as you say, "for the dense."