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RE: Roads Are Easements Not Planned Communities Or HOAs - Patricia - 01-11-2025

(01-11-2025, 07:16 PM)HereOnThePrimalEdge Wrote: A lot of this discussion, the interpretation of legal details, or misinterpretation of legal details, reminds of the people who claimed there was no binding legal requirement that you pay taxes, or the Native Hawaiians who flew to The Hague and discovered some international loophole proving paperwork wasn’t properly completed or filed or another claim.

The anti tax people usually were fined or jailed.  The international legal researchers generally had no standing in the courts for their efforts.

Not following. Road fees aren't taxes.


RE: Roads Are Easements Not Planned Communities Or HOAs - MyManao - 01-11-2025

(01-11-2025, 05:58 PM)Obie Wrote: I can't imagine why..

Insanity.


RE: Roads Are Easements Not Planned Communities Or HOAs - Patricia - 01-11-2025

(01-11-2025, 07:07 PM)Obie Wrote: That screenshot you posted wasn't from me but then you and your nasty group have suspected me of being 3 or 4 people who I am not.

The gate was illegal when your mother bought the house and still is. It creates a traffic hazard and you have sure screamed about traffic hazards. Going to Board Meetings and complaining over and over.

Your very 1st board meeting you attended was to bitch about the dust from the road and that was because I believe you were in Wyoming and you hadn't seen the house in person. You were going to call for the water truck multiple times a day until the board paved the road.

Accusing the volunteer board members of skimming money and building a nest egg when they are just following the bylaws is pretty pathetic and despicable.

The reason why you weren't allowed to have a garage door is because you are in and SMA and a tsunami zone.  I'm looking out for you neighbors who will be impacted by your illegal actions. The house is post and pier facing the ocean.

Umm... 

As I said, there are 3 of us on the deed. We ALL bought the house and the garage door was here- all kosher. If you want to squeal on my neighbors too (up and down the road) I am sure those with garage doors "facing the ocean" will clap you on the back for "looking out" for them. 

It's funny about the gate... Because actually the visibility going in and out is MUCH better than going in and out of the driveway. Anyone who sees the gate will be able to see that as well. HUGE open space, NO blind hills, NO sight limiting vegetation. Definitely NOTHING unsafe about it. 

It is odd that you state that my "first meeting was to bitch about the dust" (that was in August of 2021). And yes, I was at that HPPOA board meeting in person. Though at that time I did not "bitch," I was asking questions- Still I have the emails to Finley. So, if I was at the meeting, in person, and you obviously KNOW this (you seem to "know" a lot about me) then HOW would I have been in Wyoming? Curiouser and curioser...

As for my use of the word "skimming," well that IS what the board is doing. The board is taking money, off the top of the road revenue that comes in and, as YOU SAID, building themselves a "nice nestegg" (YOUR descriptive, not mine). 

Lastly, talk to Finley about the paving- his idea. He'd been pushing that since day one. And yeah, I did call the water truck- LOTS (so did my neighbors). My mother has health issues and the road dust was exacerbating them. But then road base isnt supposed to sit on a road for YEARS. 

Oh, and thanks for describing my family's house and WHERE it is on social media. As I said, pathetic and NASTY. 

So, owners and prospective owners of property in substandard subdivisions in Puna, Hawaii, MORE INFO, don't allow abusive, stalkers to bully you into being quiet. Because as you can see, some of them will try. It's been "the way" for DECADES. 

Oh, and if you raise your voice a little, be prepared for some of the abusive, stalkers to call it screaming.


RE: Roads Are Easements Not Planned Communities Or HOAs - Moderator 2 - 01-11-2025

Please everyone, live and let live.


RE: Roads Are Easements Not Planned Communities Or HOAs - Patricia - 01-11-2025

(01-11-2025, 08:40 PM)Moderator 2 Wrote: Please everyone, live and let live.

I agree. But I will not tolerate threatening and abusive behavior. Mr. O, should be called out. He has threatened my family, has described my family's house, where we live. He has promulgated lies (we have NEVER rented our property). 

This post is about substandard subdivisions, in Puna, Hawaii, roads, road fee money, etc. This post is not about me or MY FAMILY. Mr. O. has crossed a line.


RE: Roads Are Easements Not Planned Communities Or HOAs - HiloJulie - 01-11-2025

(01-11-2025, 08:40 PM)Moderator 2 Wrote: Please everyone, live and let live.

I could not agree with you more!

Cue Pau... 

Oh, never mind!


RE: Roads Are Easements Not Planned Communities Or HOAs - Patricia - 01-11-2025

(01-11-2025, 09:07 PM)HiloJulie Wrote:
(01-11-2025, 08:40 PM)Moderator 2 Wrote: Please everyone, live and let live.

I could not agree with you more!

Cue Pau... 

Oh, never mind!

That's BS, Julie. You go on and on about mysoginistic behavior. But I guess we should just ignore elder abuse. Obie is threatening my family- one of whom is quite elderly. He SHOULD be called out.


RE: Roads Are Easements Not Planned Communities Or HOAs - HiloJulie - 01-11-2025

(01-11-2025, 09:09 PM)Patricia Wrote:
(01-11-2025, 09:07 PM)HiloJulie Wrote:
(01-11-2025, 08:40 PM)Moderator 2 Wrote: Please everyone, live and let live.

I could not agree with you more!

Cue Pau...

Oh, never mind!

That's BS, Julie. You go on and on about mysoginistic behavior. But I guess we should just ignore elder abuse. Obie is threatening my family- one of whom is quite elderly. He SHOULD be called out.

You know what Patricia?

Take your personality of battery acid and go file a complaint about whatever abuse and/or threating behavior you think you are suffering from with the Hawaii County Police Department and get it off PunaWeb.

Unless, of course, you think the Hawaii County Police Department is also corrupt and wrong at everything they do.

As you have said numerous times:

“This post is not about me” (to be clear here, I am quoting YOU, so the ME is YOU and not me)

To be even further clearer, my post agreeing with Moderator 2 has absolutely not one thing to do with YOU. But, as usual, no matter what ANYBODY says, it’s always them attacking YOU, the poor victim.

I also find it ironic that you chastise ME for agreeing with Moderator 2’s post but say nothing to Moderator 2 directly about their post.

Why not post your garbage and direct it directly at Moderator 2?

And for Christ's sake - grow up!


RE: Roads Are Easements Not Planned Communities Or HOAs - Patricia - 01-11-2025

(01-11-2025, 09:09 PM)Patricia Wrote:
(01-11-2025, 09:07 PM)HiloJulie Wrote:
(01-11-2025, 08:40 PM)Moderator 2 Wrote: Please everyone, live and let live.

I could not agree with you more!

Cue Pau... 

Oh, never mind!

That's BS, Julie. You go on and on about mysoginistic behavior. But I guess we should just ignore elder abuse. Obie is threatening my family- one of whom is quite elderly. He SHOULD be called out.

Obie published, on social media, a DESCRIPTION of our house. He even stated WHERE it is. 

Some of you are so concerned with others finding out your real names that you adopt trucker-like handles to keep your privacy "safe." Yet Obie, throwing out personal info about MY FAMILY is acceptable? 

Want Orwelian? Just TRY to talk about issues to do with substandard subdivisions n Puna, Hawaii.


RE: Roads Are Easements Not Planned Communities Or HOAs - Obie - 01-11-2025

In defense of myself, I posted a brief synopsis of a building permit. It could be anywhere in Hawaii County.

In the meantime a few years ago you were posting all your main gripes on the largest HPP Facebook group.
You posted pictures of a wall, a stop sign and a puddle of rain water in the street. These pictures were taken from your lanai and identified one of the most recognizable intersections in HPP.

I'm pau and I hope everyone ignores all of your future posts.