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RE: Wuhan Corona Virus Coming Soon? (Now Here) - HereOnThePrimalEdge - 03-05-2020
Either they get tourist dollars, or they get emergency dollars. Win-win
A sweet deal.
It's like having no jobs but two paychecks.
RE: Wuhan Corona Virus Coming Soon? (Now Here) - Obie - 03-05-2020
Cruise ship arrivals are in the Monday paper every week just below the arrest report.You can plan on which days to stay away from Walmart and Target.The Pride of America is in Hilo every Tuesday.
CRUISE SHIP ARRIVALS
• 7 a.m.-6 p.m., Tuesday, Pride of America, 2,250 passengers, 900 crew
• 7 a.m.-5 p.m., Friday, Star Princess, 2,600 passengers,1,150 crew
• 7 a.m.-6 p.m., March 10, Pride of America, 2,250 passengers, 900 crew
RE: Wuhan Corona Virus Coming Soon? (Now Here) - ironyak - 03-05-2020
PaulW - Does having a mask increase your survival rate? Sure. Does it decrease everyone else's? Also.
No it does not. Choosing to wear a mask means the wearer is both less likely to contract any germs AND less likely to transmit any. That's why a mask is put on a patient at check in in the hospital if they have a respiratory illness. It's also why masks are required in many Asian countries currently so that people cannot go around contaminating surfaces and other people. You think the drones going around in China chastising those without a mask is just for fun?
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/coronavirus-drones-china-residents-face-masks-a9311476.html
Or the Chinese police arresting people without a mask is for their own good?
https://easybranches.com/crime/arrested/5623528
The systematic use of masks in public reduces EVERYONE's chances of illness, a lesson western countries might learn from this outbreak.
RE: Wuhan Corona Virus Coming Soon? (Now Here) - kander - 03-05-2020
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Would be a good theme for people who travel during a global pandemic. Its like having risky sex with unknown partners or playing russian roulette. You just never really know whats going to happen.
Then there are the other folks who know the real risks yet from the safety of their keyboard give false information to encourage others to practice in unsafe behavior in hopes that they can witness the carnage from afar. Sort of like an arsonist who sets buildings on fire then calls the fire department to report it.
motivation of all sorts can be seen during a time of crisis. Just like masks.. we all know they work to a certain degree. we also know that there is a shortage. We also know that health workers are going to need as many as they can get their hands on as it seems were heading into the mitigation stage of this pandemic.
Grand princess may or may not have positive Covid infections. But if it does it would be nice to know how many of the passengers got off the ship, how many people were transported to where and the average time those people were left to roam around. It could provide us with some data on how many people locally were infected. Not that we can stop it, but at least give a time line of when things are really going to get bad like they are now in Seattle and other areas around the country.
RE: Wuhan Corona Virus Coming Soon? (Now Here) - Punatic007 - 03-05-2020
Now it's headline on Washington Post that cruise ships out of California are spreading COVID-19. Don't have subscription so can't copy link. But I can only surmise:
1. Ige and crew fear that the economic loss from lack of tourism will be a greater loss to either themselves personally or to all of us.
2. It's been decided that the virus will spread regardless so no need to inhibit the growth and spread of the floating virus petri dish cruise ships coming in and out of Hawaii. So then for the love of sanity stop with the media rhetoric including needing millions or billions of $$$ to fight the spread.
RE: Wuhan Corona Virus Coming Soon? (Now Here) - kalakoa - 03-05-2020
would be nice to know how many of the passengers got off the ship...
People's "privacy" supersedes our need for facts which impact public health.
stop with the media rhetoric
Media needs sensationalism to attract viewers (money).
needing millions or billions of $$$ to fight the spread
The money will never be spent on (or near) the alleged need.
RE: Wuhan Corona Virus Coming Soon? (Now Here) - Chunkster - 03-05-2020
Any halfway decent public health department is going to track the past movements of infected people and share them with other relevant agencies. All of the suspected cases on cruise ships that stopped in Hawaii should be asked, "Did you go ashore, and if so, where did you go?" Whether this happens or not is anyone's guess, but I don't have a lot of confidence in Hawaii officials to take proper steps to keep a lid on things.
RE: Wuhan Corona Virus Coming Soon? (Now Here) - HereOnThePrimalEdge - 03-05-2020
suspected cases on cruise ships that stopped in Hawaii should be asked, "Did you go ashore,
It’s really not too much to ask.
Everyone who arrives by plane into Hawaii must complete the USDA I’m-not-bringing-in-any-rats-or-snakes entry form.*
* as one flight attendant described it to me
RE: Wuhan Corona Virus Coming Soon? (Now Here) - kalakoa - 03-05-2020
Not true -- HRS 150 says only that you "must declare", not that you "must fill out the form".
RE: Wuhan Corona Virus Coming Soon? (Now Here) - terracore - 03-05-2020
Quest Diagnostics (they are in Hawaii) will be able to test for the virus starting on Monday. This means that for the first time, anybody who needs/wants to be tested CAN be tested. So I expect that the first cases in Hawaii will be announced soon.
https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/quest-diagnostics-to-launch-coronavirus-disease-2019-covid-19-test-301017312.html
After the cat is out of the bag, the trip cancellations will grow exponentially and the state's main source of income will dry up and we'll be looking at an economic disaster as well as a public health one. Schools and businesses may start to close. If you haven't prepared for all of these scenarios, time to do so is running out.
ETA: Here are some recent headlines and I post them only to provide awareness of the types of things that could be coming here:
Santa Clara County total hits 20 as 6 new cases confirmed
San Francisco mayor reports first 2 cases in the city
New Jersey Lt. Gov confirms 2nd "presumptive" case
2 more cases confirmed in Texas's Harris County
NYC asks travelers from 5 countries to 'self-quarantine'
Trump refuses to answer questions about testing kit shortage
NY state cases double to 22
Washington state reports another 20 cases
Palestinian territories confirm 7 cases
Seattle closes 26 schools
Pentagon tracking 12 possible COVID-19 cases
35 passengers aboard 'Grand Princess' showing flu-like symptoms
Another senior Iranian figure dies
Illinois reports 5 more cases
NYC reports 2 more cases, raising total to 4
Italy postpones referendum vote; death toll hits 148
WHO's Tedros: "Now's the time to pull out the stops"
Tennessee confirms case
Nevada confirms first case
New Delhi closes primary schools
EU officials weigh pushing retired health-care workers back into service to combat virus
Italy to ask EU for permission to raise budget deficit as lawmakers approve €7.5 billion euros
Beijing tells residents not to share food
30-year-old Chinese man dies in Wuhan 5 days after hospital discharge
Cali authorities tell 'Grand Princess' cruise ship not to return to port until everyone is tested
Global case total passes 95k
Lebanon sees cases double to 31
France deaths climb to 7, cases up 138 to 423
EY sends 1,500 Madrid employees home after staffer catches virus
Trump says he has a "hunch" true virus mortality rate is closer to 1%
Switzerland reports 1st death
South Africa confirms 1st case
UK chief medical officer confirms 'human-to-human' infections are happening in UK
UK case total hits 115
Google, Apple, Netflix cancel events
HSBC sends research department and part of London trading floor home
Facebook contract infected in Seattle
Microsoft, Google, Amazon, Netflix cancel events and/or ask employees to work from home
Netherlands cases double to 82
Spain cases climb 40, 1 new death
Belgium reports 27 new cases bringing total to 50
Germany adds 87 cases bringing total to 349