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RE: Wuhan Corona Virus Coming Soon? (Now Here) - HereOnThePrimalEdge - 03-05-2020
"must declare", not that you "must fill out the form".
The next time I'm returning from the mainland I'll ask my flight attendant if they've read and fully comprehend HRS 150, as they are the representative responsible for it's proper implementation.
The point still stands. If an entire system is in place so air travelers must self declare whether or not animals, fruit, vegetables, etc are in their personal possession and bound for Hawaii, it's certainly possible to ask cruise ship passengers, especially those testing positive for COVID-19 whether or not they took a bus to the Hilo Walmart.
RE: Wuhan Corona Virus Coming Soon? (Now Here) - kalakoa - 03-05-2020
travelers must self declare
Assumes the travelers will be honest and forthcoming.
The true purpose of the form is to gather tourism information.
Ironically, the airline never has any pens/pencils, you're expected to provide your own.
RE: Wuhan Corona Virus Coming Soon? (Now Here) - terracore - 03-05-2020
One time I filled out that form and put down a bunch of species that require permits to import. Nobody ever contacted me. I was wondering is that because I had the permits? So I asked somebody who works for the agency. She told me that most of those forms are never looked at. Your government "at work".
RE: Wuhan Corona Virus Coming Soon? (Now Here) - rainyjim - 03-05-2020
To add to terracore’s headlines - Coronavirus: Italy says it's had 41 new COVID-19 deaths in just 24 hours
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.euronews.com/amp/2020/03/05/two-more-people-die-from-covid-19-in-france-says-the-country-s-health-ministry
The numbers coming from Italy and Iraq make me seriously question the voracity of the numbers coming out of the PRC.
RE: Wuhan Corona Virus Coming Soon? (Now Here) - terracore - 03-05-2020
quote:
Originally posted by rainyjim
To add to terracore’s headlines - Coronavirus: Italy says it's had 41 new COVID-19 deaths in just 24 hours
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.euronews.com/amp/2020/03/05/two-more-people-die-from-covid-19-in-france-says-the-country-s-health-ministry
The numbers coming from Italy and Iraq make me seriously question the voracity of the numbers coming out of the PRC.
"The country's civil protection agency said on Thursday evening that 3,858 people had been infected and 148 had died."
That's a mortality rate of 3.836% (Seasonal flu usually 0.1%)
And are most cases still unresolved?
eta: above sentence
RE: Wuhan Corona Virus Coming Soon? (Now Here) - rainyjim - 03-05-2020
Quite frankly the numbers coming out of Italy are alarming. I’ve seen evidence that there are multiple strains of this novel coronavirus and some are less virulent than others while some are more deadly. For example, the strain in Washington state appears to be spreading more rapidly, but with less mortalities. It may be that Italy is suffering from a more virulent strain(s).
RE: Wuhan Corona Virus Coming Soon? (Now Here) - terracore - 03-05-2020
The numbers coming out of Seattle are worse than Italy. Prefaced with "yeah but it started in an old folks home" statement, there are a lot of old folks in Hawaii.
RE: Wuhan Corona Virus Coming Soon? (Now Here) - ironyak - 03-05-2020
rainyjim - It may be that Italy is suffering from a more virulent strain(s).
You might enjoy this refutation of the L&S strain paper, as they note there are over 100 "strains" with small genomic differences with no demonstrated evidence for any being more or less virulent (warning - science ahead!)
http://virological.org/t/response-to-on-the-origin-and-continuing-evolution-of-sars-cov-2/418
That said, even without different strains, Case Fatality Rates are of course going to vary by region with those areas with older people seeing more severe and fatal outcomes. Look around and think about what this might mean for you and your immediate community here!
RE: Wuhan Corona Virus Coming Soon? (Now Here) - ironyak - 03-05-2020
the amount of alcohol required is dependent on time the virus is in the solution. 20% will kill it
Another round (drink it down) - Tito's says their vodka (40% ethanol) will not work for DIY hand sanitizer.
https://www.khon2.com/coronavirus-2/titos-vodka-cannot-be-used-to-make-hand-sanitizer-company-says/
However, the WHO does have a good DIY guide for making your own from ethanol or isopropyl alcohol, intended for communities without clean water or access to medical-grade products (so... Puna
https://www.who.int/gpsc/5may/Guide_to_Local_Production.pdf
RE: Wuhan Corona Virus Coming Soon? (Now Here) - Guest - 03-05-2020
Report of the WHO-China Joint Mission on Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)
16-24 February 2020
Goal and Objectives
The overall goal of the Joint Mission was to rapidly inform national (China) and international planning on next steps in the response to the ongoing outbreak of the novel coronavirus disease (COVID-191) and on next steps in readiness and preparedness for geographic areas not yet affected.
The major objectives of the Joint Mission were as follows:
• To enhance understanding of the evolving COVID-19 outbreak in China and the nature and impact of ongoing containment measures;
• To share knowledge on COVID-19 response and preparedness measures being implemented in countries affected by or at risk of importations of COVID-19;
• To generate recommendations for adjusting COVID-19 containment and response measures in China and internationally; and
• To establish priorities for a collaborative programme of work, research and development to address critical gaps in knowledge and response and readiness tools and activities...
The entire report is at:
https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/who-china-joint-mission-on-covid-19-final-report.pdf