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RE: HPP Board 2014 - hppwatchdog - 01-12-2015
quote:You should not be frightened of me, what you should be concerned with is your violation of an HRS while the TE's are shooting flaming arrows at the new board and anyone who wants to defame them.
Originally posted by mermaid53
[quote]Originally posted by hppwatchdog
Your claim is 100% false! At the time this took place I saw all 3 bids to remove the green waste. One from Ludwig, one from E&A and one from Earth Carvers. The lowest of the 3 was Earth Carvers and that is why the GM chose them to do the work. You have just defamed the former GM and I will let him know and see if wants to add you to the Jane Doe list. I know who you are and you have just made a very big mistake by making your statement public. You should not be able to get away with this type of personal and professional deformation.
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You don't frighten me. You think by enlarging and boldening the font that you scare me? And you are NO HPPWatchdog. You are behaving like a TE supporter trolling this thread for ammo. Prove your claim by giving us the facts then. Why weren't the bids discussed at a board mtg with a full board present? There is no agenda nor are there board minutes discussing the hauling bids. You didn't state where you saw the bids. I know board members who never saw the bids. How is it you saw the bids when all board members DID NOT?
Edited to add an add'l and fair question: Why would mgmt solicit a contractor who hadn't completed their prior contract with us to bid on work that was connected to the unfinished job? Now maybe you've said too much...and the word is "defamation", not "deformation".
Contracts 101: a project isn't complete until the contractor receives a notice of completion from the owner. As long as the owner is in receipt of the retainage the contract isn't complete. All the owner has to do is write the contractor and discuss what they feel is incomplete, then the contractor can either make the decision to remedy the situation or forfeit his retainage and the owner will have a third party come in and do the work.
So, the contract for either project are
not complete.
But the board keeps telling Yamada that they can't locate their contract and that was last week.
RE: HPP Board 2014 - hppwatchdog - 01-12-2015
quote:Could be, or one of the other dozen or so people who saw the bids.
Originally posted by hawaiideborah
Is HPPdog the fired GM?
RE: HPP Board 2014 - mermaid53 - 01-12-2015
Originally posted by hppwatchdog
Contracts 101: a project isn't complete until the contractor receives a notice of completion from the owner. As long as the owner is in receipt of the retainage the contract isn't complete. All the owner has to do is write the contractor and discuss what they feel is incomplete, then the contractor can either make the decision to remedy the situation or forfeit his retainage and the owner will have a third party come in and do the work.
So, the contract for either project are not complete.
But the board keeps telling Yamada that they can't locate their contract and that was last week.
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You still haven't answered the questions of where and when you saw the 3 bids you claim exist, or how a doz or so people also have seen the bids, yet some former board members haven't. Interesting....
Watchdog, I based my information from what this person of authority had reported publicly saying the 1st phase of the job was completed. This is not defamation.
I won't presume to get a reply on these pointed questions....and the picture is crystal clear...there are anonymous TE posters trolling for ammo so everyone, beware. That sure puts a damper on things...
RE: HPP Board 2014 - TomK - 01-12-2015
May I make a suggestion?
There seems to be an active lawsuit. Most lawyers worth their salt tend to advise their clients and others not to say anything to anyone regarding the suit. Maybe some here could follow that advice?
Thanks.
RE: HPP Board 2014 - mermaid53 - 01-12-2015
Mahalo Tom.
RE: HPP Board 2014 - janet - 01-13-2015
"Watchdog, I based my information from what this person of authority had reported publicly..."
Everyone please listen to TomK.
I have tried to warn several times that repeating statements that are against the law to be made publicly is repeating the crime and placing the repeater in line for prosecution - no matter how much "authority" the original speaker may have.
By now, everyone should realize that statements about the former employees' job performance or their salaries are strictly off limits. They definitely violate the laws on employee confidentiality and could violate those on defamation of character.
And they do not help the defendants' case in the current lawsuit - if any of the defamation accusations are held true by the court, the constant repetition of them will only increase the size of the damages awarded to the plaintiffs.
RE: HPP Board 2014 - shockwave rider - 01-13-2015
It is illegal for the EMPLOYER to disclose confidential information regarding employees, that would include all current and past board members who were the employer at the time of employment. It is not illegal for others to spread rumors, hearsay or opinions about those matters, because they are not the employer violating employee/employer confidentiality. It may be unethical or immoral, but it is not illegal.
RE: HPP Board 2014 - hawaiideborah - 01-13-2015
Excellent post.
RE: HPP Board 2014 - kalakoa - 01-13-2015
repeating statements that are against the law to be made publicly is repeating the crime
There's already a Supreme Court ruling on this: reporting information that has already been "leaked" is considered "journalism". See also: Snowden, recent Sony debacle.
RE: HPP Board 2014 - hawaiideborah - 01-13-2015
Janet, Katrina, Steve1, HPPwatchdog,
How about we ALL stop discussing the lawsuit and the fired employees?
No more baiting and trolling for ammo for your lawsuit.
This thread is supposed to be about the HPPOA Booard.
Also, it would be more acurate information about the Board if "Janet" and "Katrina" actually attended any Board meetings.
I checked the lists of attendees at the meetings. Neither of those names are in attendance. "Janet" and "Katrina" are just sitting on the sidelines criticizing.
Try getting involved. Show up for meetings, speak out and get your info first hand.