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RE: Woman's body found off Kalapana - jackson - 06-11-2013
I'll second the advice on Mitch Roth. I would also think that you might want to contact the FBI as the police here can be useless unless you are not wearing your seatbelt. There is also the possibility that they can thwart the investigation if a relative is involved.
RE: Woman's body found off Kalapana - ssshjar_johnson - 06-11-2013
Thanks all for comments.
Pilgrim, I get where you are coming from but, it doesn't change the fact that he did threaten them. When someone is murdered, doesn't it make sense to look into threats that were made to the deceased's life? This guy didn't just make a hollow, emotionless threat. He was extremely aggressive and agitated about it. This is what I base my conclusions on. I don't think I am going off unfounded information.
I am keeping my mind open to every possibility. Really, I am. It is difficult though when so many others are sharing similar stories about what this tour guide has done to them.
Last thing, These friends of yours who started a tour business themselves. I hate to ask this question, but sadly, it seems relevant.- is that friend caucasian? The fact that my brother is what locals call "haloe," may or may not have something to do with the violence in this case.
RE: Woman's body found off Kalapana - Pilgrim - 06-11-2013
Sarah,
To answer your question, my buddy is also a haole.(And since I know it literally means "foreign" I don't take offense to the word unless its preceded by f-ing). It looks like most of the other newbies out there that I saw are also haole folk. People in the world seem to hate each other for all sorts of reasons so I know its out there, but honestly. I have not encountered too much of that here on this island.
I feel for what you and your family must be going through.
I do hope some resolution will come soon.
RE: Woman's body found off Kalapana - Kalapana Hawaii - 06-11-2013
Read the book....."Hawaii, the Big Island Revealed..6th edition" This talks about the problems and names the tour companies.
Here is a quote from the book....
“Another person representing Kalapana Cultural Tours threatened every person and group walking to the end of the road while we were there, screaming obscenities and insults to all who approached. In our case, he said he would beat us all up and singled out my 4-foot 11-inch daughter-in-law saying, “You shut your mouth. I slap girls, too!”
The bully guide's name is ------ ----. ---- also threatened to shoot up Bo, Ruth & Brittany if they gave lava tours. ---- has threatened and beaten many people in Kalapana. Its time everyone comes forward to expose this sociopath. I just read that this is the sixth person that has been dumped into the ocean in Kalapana.
The police Must investigate this prime suspect. Or if not, the FBI will investigate the police and why they let ---- get away with so much. Seems that all the locals are related here and they stick together, or maybe they are afraid of ---- and his boyz, too. I met a Hawaiian woman that ---- beat and dragged across the Lava by her hair. She showed me her scars. She was terrified for her life if she reported that ---- had beaten her. But she gathered her courage and reported her assault to the local cops. They turned it around and charged her with making false charges against ---- and she got into trouble. She confided to me that ---- and his local gang of pig hunters plan to go farn to farm and kill all of the haole (white) landowners and take their homes and farms in a plot called Imua, if there is ever an EMP or the US government fails or... whatever. The CIA should investigate this possible local raciest terrorist cell.
Moderator: I have removed an individual's name as that individual is not a member of Punaweb who can defend the claims made here.
RE: Woman's body found off Kalapana - ssshjar_johnson - 06-11-2013
I am interested in reading this book, more interested in speaking with the author.
RE: Woman's body found off Kalapana - bananahead - 06-11-2013
dont believe all you read here.... or in guide books w/authors who toot their own horns
the book mentioned above is a guide book for this island written by a self centered haole from Kona side ....
Ive read 3 editions of this 'book' ...he dont know Kalapana or Puna
PS what page is that 'quote' (above) from in the 6th edition of the 'bluebook'??? I dont see any mention of Kalapana Cultural Tours on any of the pages related to Kalapana or lava viewing or lava hikes etc. also they are NOT listed in the index.....
6 bodies in ocean???, please post links to the stories of the other 5 please
and has Mr. ---- spent time in jail related to these so called many 'dirtnaps' you mentioned... all I see is his slack key guitar and Kalapana Market at Uncles posts/stories... nothing related to court, cops, arrests, threats, etc....
http://punaweb.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=14922
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"""It's pretty fun. If ---- and Uncle Glen are playing, the music is guaranteed to be good......not your typical Farmer's Market music. These guys are really, really good (and I thought they were very nice, too). ---- is an underrated slack key guitarist. He is simply superlative. It just pours out of him. He's the real deal and very close to the source."""
please prove to me and others your post above is not a smear campaign of propaganda towards Uncle Roberts
aloha
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RE: Woman's body found off Kalapana - Abi Johnson - 06-11-2013
I am another sister of Bo Johnson. I recently wrote a letter to the editor and it was published in the Hawaii Tribune-Herald and the Petersburg Pilot about my brother. Here is a link to the letter http://hawaiitribune-herald.com/sections/commentary/your-views/your-views-june-11.html
We need to hold out hope for Bo. I love Bo. I miss him and wish nothing more to see him again. We need to keep this investigation alive. We need to get this story as much media attention possible to expose the corruption and heinous crimes going unpunished in Puna.
RE: Woman's body found off Kalapana - coppercoin40 - 06-11-2013
Bo's family - These reviews were on yelp for Kalapana Cultural Tours -
Debi H. Patterson, CA
1.0 star rating
2/8/2013
I have a friend who was on the tour when the tour guide lost it! She isn't on Yelp but since she shared with me and I am, I thought it would be best to pass this info on to unsuspecting visitors, especially those who want to use this tour company!
A person with Kalapana Cultural Tours threatened every person and group walking to the end of the road while she was there! He screamed, using foul language and insults. He even said he would beat them all up! They told him that they wouldn't go off the old highway, but he told them again that he would beat them if they went anyway!. They said no, thanks to the tour guide, but called the police. He left before they got there. She said that they did give the police his name.
I will not be using this company when I visit in May!
Pauline S. Finksburg, MD
1.0 star rating
1/2/2013
Seeing the lava was awesome but the guide's meltdown was unnecessary. Initially the guides had some interesting insights into the history and flora of the area. Viewing the lava was spectacular. Things went dramatically down hill from there. We spent an extra forty five minutes at the lava while our guide screamed, cursed, threatened violence, and verbally abused tourists who wondered onto the lava unguided. Unprofessional, untrained, and out of control guides with no wilderness first responder training for a hundred dollars a head and the threat of violence if you go out unguided is not the aloha spirit that usually marks the big island. So the the tour part was lame but seeing the lava was amazing.
And an excerpt of this one on tripadvisor:
juliebu2000
Reviewer
“Could have been so much better”
May 23, 2013
This is probably the best way to see the lava flows up close, but the "tour" really could have been much better. Our tour guide(Jo Jo) clearly was an expert at finding lava flows, but that is where the tour experience ended... (deleting portion of text) Multiple tour groups came to the flow that our guide found. Our guide was clearly annoyed with other groups and with tourists that came out on their own( which I would not recommend)...
Visited May 2013
RE: Woman's body found off Kalapana - coppercoin40 - 06-11-2013
This is online for 6 edition of Hawaii The Big Island Revealed by Andrew Doughty:
Lava Flow Viewing Access Update: The lava is sporadically flowing a couple of miles from the end of the county road on Hwy 130, but things can get complicated. Although the old state highway still exists under the lava flow (and is therefore state land), County Civil Defense dissuades hikers from proceeding when they start duty around 4 p.m., and they absolutely have that authority. Visitors arriving before then might encounter a couple of private tour companies that will walk you a couple of miles out to the flow for around $150 per person. When I politely declined their services, one company rep from Poke-a-Stick Tours incorrectly told me there were state officers “patrolling the lava flows and arresting viewers who weren’t with paid guides.” Another person representing Kalapana Cultural Tours threatened every person and group walking to the end of the road while we were there, screaming obscenities and insults to all who approached. In our case, he said he would beat us all up and singled out my 4-foot 11-inch daughter-in-law saying, “You shut your mouth. I slap girls, too!” We explained that with GPS we wouldn’t be straying from the old Hwy under the lava and would not trespass onto private property, which the gentleman correctly indicated the lava might be flowing onto. But we were told that the state had “stolen all the land” under the highway anyway and that the same beating would take place if we proceeded. We declined the tour and called the police, then watched as others got the same threats before the police arrived, by which time the man (whose name we gave to the police) had left. My point is you may encounter unauthorized “enforcers” at the end of the government road on Hwy 130, and regardless of your feelings, rights or pride, you should turn away if you feel unwelcome. The lava might indeed be flowing onto private property and you do not have a right to trespass onto it. If you want to pay a guide, that’s your decision. Personally, we’ll take a pass.
RE: Woman's body found off Kalapana - coppercoin40 - 06-11-2013
One more note - Andrew Doughty moved to Kauai in 1993, maybe he can be tracked down to expand more on the note he included in edition 6 regarding Lava Tour guides