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RE: Mayor Kenoi wants off on a technicality - Guest - 08-23-2016
The many Auditor reports are just another waste of money unless folks with integrity can implement the recommendations found in them. The people being put in place over the years that could help make the biggest differences lack important qualities like ethics. jmo
http://khon2.com/2015/05/07/auditor-calls-pcard-oversight-an-unresolved-years-old-issue/
Hilopuna, thank you for the correction regarding Nancy Crawford's position.
RE: Mayor Kenoi wants off on a technicality - kalakoa - 08-23-2016
But in 2010, the state auditor put out a report...
"The question that we have watching what's going on around us is, why aren't some of these things blocked?" Yamane said. "Someone must have removed the controls or not put the controls in place in the first place."
Imagine that.
RE: Mayor Kenoi wants off on a technicality - Chunkster - 08-23-2016
I'm still waiting for HiloPuna (or someone else) to show us the exact statute citation or pCard procedure component that legally allowed Kenoi to charge personal items such as his bar association dues. Anyone?
RE: Mayor Kenoi wants off on a technicality - HereOnThePrimalEdge - 08-23-2016
"Someone must have removed the controls or not put the controls in place in the first place."
If we spend enough time looking through the county rules, I don't doubt Billy is exempted from speed limits on our roads (so he can reach important meetings on time) and all manner of regulations we mere mortals with our insignificant station in life get ticketed and fined for.
What about our credit cards, the ones that charge us late fees and interest if not paid on a specific date. Try calling VISA when you're late and say "I'm the mayor." See how that works.
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RE: Mayor Kenoi wants off on a technicality - Tink - 08-23-2016
If there is so much rampant abuse, why even have p-cards? With the salary they have, their credit rating must be high enough that their card has a very high limit. It's their personal card, they can charge a "legitimate expense", submit their credit card statement to back up the reimbursement form, and get a reimbursement check. Cut and dried, no "I forgot". ( easy to "black out" other expenses, card number etc. for their privacy, and only show reimbursement charges).
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RE: Mayor Kenoi wants off on a technicality - HiloPuna - 08-23-2016
HOTPE
Theatre of the Absurd possibilities will no doubt be taken seriously by some on this thread. Want to make a pool of the likely susceptible to your gulling?
Hyperbolic snark and passive/aggressive.....West meets East !
RE: Mayor Kenoi wants off on a technicality - alaskyn66 - 08-23-2016
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Originally posted by Tink
If there is so much rampant abuse, why even have p-cards? With the salary they have, their credit rating must be high enough that their card has a very high limit. It's their personal card, they can charge a "legitimate expense", submit their credit card statement to back up the reimbursement form, and get a reimbursement check. Cut and dried, no "I forgot". ( easy to "black out" other expenses, card number etc. for their privacy, and only show reimbursement charges).
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That...why is that not the procedure.
..Bad boys,Bad boys what we gonna do...let ya out on bail for a buck or two...
RE: Mayor Kenoi wants off on a technicality - kalakoa - 08-23-2016
With the salary they have, their credit rating must be high enough that their card
Wasn't part of Kenoi's "justification" that he doesn't even have a credit card?
If we spend enough time looking through the county rules...
I have; the phrase "at the discretion of the Director" appears often -- so often that it makes a mockery of having written rules in the first place. Apparently the "discretion" even works both ways, either exempting or creating additional requirements as needed on a per-incident basis.
RE: Mayor Kenoi wants off on a technicality - Chunkster - 08-23-2016
Yes, part of Kenoi's story at the onset of the scandal was that he has no credit card of his own. While it's totally irrelevant to the legal case, I find it quite surprising that an attorney whose salary exceeds $125,000 can't get a credit card. He obviously likes to use them, though.
Meanwhile, I'm still waiting for HiloPuna to cite the statute or county procedure that exempts Kenoi from the "no personal purchases" pCard rule. Everything I can find says, "No way!"
RE: Mayor Kenoi wants off on a technicality - HiloPuna - 08-23-2016
Chunkster
You wrote:
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I'm still waiting for HiloPuna (or someone else) to show us the exact statute citation or pCard procedure component that legally allowed Kenoi to charge personal items such as his bar association dues. Anyone?
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Okay, maybe you missed it, all the many times you likely reviewed the P card rules. I'm sure you wouldn't be this opinionated without first fully informing yourself. If you go to the slideshare links earlier in this thread that are copies of a Roth to AG letter you will find a convenient copy of those very P(ersonal) card rules. Skip to page 6, where the restrictions of use, including personal expenses such as Bar dues ( as well as bar fines and bar tabs ) are enumerated. Read them all. When you get to pg 7, after all the prohibitions have been made (including call girls and dating services*) you will see a sentence that says;
"...Exceptions may be granted by the Purchasing Card Administrator..."
That exception was granted to the Mayor(s) and Ms Crawford has testified to that, and thats the fact!
*ok, I'm baiting the histrionic here, I apologize in advance.