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RE: Gov. David Ige says state indoor mask mandate to end March 25 - HereOnThePrimalEdge - 03-23-2022

The waters? What waters? We're in the desert.

I’m shocked! Shocked to find …


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RE: Gov. David Ige says state indoor mask mandate to end March 25 - HawaiiEV - 03-23-2022

(03-23-2022, 09:33 PM)kalakoa Wrote: work them from home and close every public outlet

The alternative was masking and/or vaccination.
False dialectic. Those at risk should have isolated, masked and then vaccinated while the rest continued their lives as normal. We would all be better off, scientifically speaking as confirmed by the studies. We also probably should have avoided putting Covid positive patients into nursing homes, anyone who observed the dawn princess quarantine results should have figured that one out…  Idea


RE: Gov. David Ige says state indoor mask mandate to end March 25 - malahini - 03-23-2022

(03-22-2022, 01:03 AM)Durian Fiend Wrote: You can't uncouple them. Covid led to the response. The government in Hawaii didn't handle it any differently that other states did, at least initially. Or other countries, for that matter.  No one had a crystal ball, they were doing what was thought to be best at the time. 

An article last month said Alaska and Hawaii were rated as tops for being Covid safest over the past couple years, so geographic isolation was probably a factor to some degree.

In addition to a better vax uptake than most states, Hawaii has a relatively low obesity rate working in its favor.

Yeah well we've already mentioned a place where they avoided basically all of the downsides that we see here with the exception of external economic forces caused by the rest of the world losing their minds.

Otherwise I essentially agree. There's far more going on in Hawaii. Honestly I think the biggest factor on a place like the Big island might be low use of air conditioning and heating. Respiratory viruses spread best in stagnant air. I wouldn't be surprised if you could live with someone with Omicron in Hawaii with the windows all open and the trade winds blowing and not catch it.

(03-22-2022, 05:44 AM)randomq Wrote: Durian Fiend, I would tell you, but I can't really remember it. I guess it must have worked!

Malahini, depression and loneliness seem like pretty reasonable responses to everything we've gone through. I think it would be worse if a lot more family and friends had died.

There's literally no good evidence any of Ige's policies reduced deaths besides the initial test/quarantine regime.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correlation_does_not_imply_causation

There's a place far away that recently had the very highest death rates that had very similar policies, but lack of vaccination of the elderly was the issue. Another place had the same policies but very high vax rates and the deaths weren't that bad despite crazy crazy high case spike.


RE: Gov. David Ige says state indoor mask mandate to end March 25 - HawaiiEV - 03-23-2022

Hawaii has a lot of fresh air and sunshine, I think the best thing one could do for Covid. I assume this is what Africa had also, because they certainly didn’t and don’t have any of the other stuff and have some of the best case rates.


RE: Gov. David Ige says state indoor mask mandate to end March 25 - MyManao - 03-23-2022

(03-23-2022, 10:22 PM)malahini Wrote: There's literally no good evidence any of Ige's policies reduced deaths besides the initial test/quarantine regime.

Said with such conviction.. so much so that the teller must be a doctor.. right?

My bet.. doctor or no the buggah's been smelling way too many flowers.. wouldn't know up from down.. let alone how to filter out all the noise.

And still you gotta give 'em credit for trying.

As to my ellipsis.. I only use two dots.. sue me.

(03-23-2022, 10:43 PM)HawaiiEV Wrote: I assume this is what Africa had also, because they certainly didn’t and don’t have any of the other stuff and have some of the best case rates.

Actually, I think if you looked into it rather than just trying to fit facts to your narrative you'd find it's genetic. The difference being between those with a Neanderthal contribution, Eurasian, and those without.


RE: Gov. David Ige says state indoor mask mandate to end March 25 - HawaiiEV - 03-24-2022

Since you are so well researched let’s see it.. does not fit the narrative and statistics of minorities including Hawaiian and African American being hit disproportionately harder.. low obesity among certain populations, warm weather and sunshine do fit the statistics.


RE: Gov. David Ige says state indoor mask mandate to end March 25 - kalianna - 03-24-2022

Rob: HELP!!!


RE: Gov. David Ige says state indoor mask mandate to end March 25 - HawaiiEV - 03-24-2022

Why? We are having a discussion related to Hawaii.

Are you mature enough to read things you want to, and not things you don’t want to? Why scream for censorship when you can just look elsewhere and talk of different things? This is a big part of the problem with our society today, if people don’t like the conversation they want it fully censored, even if they aren’t participating or involved. People must not have discussions you don’t approve of?


RE: Gov. David Ige says state indoor mask mandate to end March 25 - kalakoa - 03-24-2022

Those at risk should have isolated



That was never going to happen, for reasons similar to the anti-vaxxers.

those with a Neanderthal contribution, Eurasian, and those without

Vestigal Neanderthal DNA remnants are very small, it would have to be a specific gene or two.

Why scream for censorship

Americans need their mommy to protect them because thinking for themselves is weird and scary.


RE: Gov. David Ige says state indoor mask mandate to end March 25 - MyManao - 03-24-2022

(03-24-2022, 01:11 AM)kalakoa Wrote: Vestigal Neanderthal DNA remnants are very small, it would have to be a specific gene or two.

From.. https://www.jpost.com/health-science/coronavirus-genetic-risk-factor-inherited-from-neanderthals-new-study-634177

Coronavirus genetic risk factor inherited from Neanderthals

Almost 3,200 genetic profiles of hospitalized patients were analyzed, showing that those presenting the relevant DNA variant were 70% more likely to develop a severe form of the disease.

Full article at link above..