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HPP General Membership Meeting this Sunday - JerryCarr - 10-22-2012
There will be a meeting of the HPP General Membership this Sunday, October 28 at 3 p.m. in the Activity Center. There are still a lot of unresolved issues about the HPP Board of Directors' response to the dust issue, which has been poorly handled, IMHO. This is an opportunity for HPP property owners to express their opinions, and I urge them to attend. The following statement has been issued by a group of concerned members of the HPPOA:
Triple Our HPP Road Fees? It’s Your Choice.
Our HPP road fees could triple... from the current $262 up to $762 and higher.
The HPP Owners Association is mailing out a survey which asks if you are willing to increase your annual fee by $500 for 5 years...on top of the $262 that you already pay. That would be $762 in the first year and probably higher later.
Or the survey offers you the choice of paying an extra $300 per year instead of $500. That boost would last for 5 years or 8 years; take your pick.
What’s this all about? It starts with dust. We are told three HPP property owners (out of about 7,000 in total) have complained to the state Department of Health about dust from unpaved roads. The Health Department is pressuring the Association, and the Association has responded by considering additional costly paving.
The Association survey does not appear neutral. It appears to pressure property owners like you. The survey ends with a question about whether you would be willing to face fines and “a legal solution” (a lawsuit) if you don’t accept the $500 (or $300) increase. That sure looks like pressure from our own Association.
Is this a done deal? No. The survey is only an opinion poll. (Be sure to note: This survey is identified at the top of the page only by the heading “Survey #2.” Do not confuse it with “Survey Number 1” on the other side.) If the Association wants to push forward with road fee increases, it would have to hold an actual vote. They’d need to get at least 600 votes (out of a potential of about 8,800) and at least 301 of those votes would have to be positive toward the increases.
Is there an alternative? Yes. The survey also asks if you would accept “reasonable precautions” against dust. (No definition of what that means.)
Reasonable? Is the Health Department acting reasonably? We don’t think so. We don’t think the Association is either. In August, several HPP owners asked the Association to hire a lawyer who is a specialist in air quality (such as dust issues). The Association didn’t do it.
No specialized lawyer? Why doesn’t the Association hire a specialized attorney to fight for us – to talk to the Health Department before fines and a lawsuit start? We don’t understand it. You should ask the Association.
Come to the HPPOA General Meeting, Sunday, Oct. 28, in the HPPOA activity center on Maku’u Drive, starting at 3 p.m. Look for the agenda item, “Survey importance.”
But meetings are so boring! You won’t be bored if this thing creeps along, and then you suddenly find yourself paying an extra $500 per year.
Edited to correct numeric date to 28th.
RE: HPP General Membership Meeting this Sunday - Seeb - 10-22-2012
I heard some chatter about CCRs did that die out. Or do I have to explain to them what a regulatory taking is.
RE: HPP General Membership Meeting this Sunday - EightFingers - 10-23-2012
Thanks for the heads up!
RE: HPP General Membership Meeting this Sunday - macuu222 - 10-23-2012
Im all for paying an extra $500.00 a year or more for 5 years to get "all the roads" paved. Thats probably the only way my dead end street will. Even if you add the property taxes to the yearly road fees...It still adds up to less than what I would pay just in property taxes in just about any other state when you include the Hawaii exemption. Besides... we might even get a discount getting our driveway paved when they're paving the road in front of our house!
RE: HPP General Membership Meeting this Sunday - JerryCarr - 10-23-2012
quote:And if you think the HPP organization as currently constituted and operated can deliver on such a promise, I have some lovely garden lots outside El Paso that you need to buy.
Originally posted by macuu222
Im all for paying an extra $500.00 a year or more for 5 years to get "all the roads" paved.
RE: HPP General Membership Meeting this Sunday - Seeb - 10-23-2012
When they sent out the last survey they said that all the roads would get paved with that 24 (including interst) million. And yes I know there are all kinds of excuses why, but what's any different this time?
RE: HPP General Membership Meeting this Sunday - DanielP - 10-23-2012
"The Health Department is pressuring the Association" In what way? Tell the health department to go talk to the planners who authorized the building of HPP and all of the other sub-standard and illegal subdivisions in Puna. Perhaps HPP should head up a class action suit(along with the other subdivisions)against the County, once the Health department makes a legal move against HPP.
Pressure-Smesher
RE: HPP General Membership Meeting this Sunday - rainshadow - 10-23-2012
DanielP - that's a great idea. I moved here for the dust; it makes such an amazing sunset.
I'll be at the meeting; thanks for posting, Jerry.
-- rainshadow
RE: HPP General Membership Meeting this Sunday - Seeb - 10-23-2012
It's the first time I've seen a protest against the hui , there were people with signs at the top of paradise
RE: HPP General Membership Meeting this Sunday - Seeb - 10-23-2012
want to bet that no board members show at the general meeting