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Killer Drones - liskir - 01-10-2013
Killer Drones
Col. (Ret.) Ann Wright
Ann Wright is a retired Army Colonel and State Department Diplomat who recently made trips to Pakistan, Gaza and Afghanistan . She will talk about her experiences concerning the use of drones in all three countries.
This free presentation will be followed by Q&A and the public is invited.
Thursday, Jan. 17, 2013
6:30 – 8 pm UH Hilo
Science & Technology Bldg (STB) Room 108
(new building on Lanikaula St. across from the Church of the Holy Cross)
free street parking and in parking lot near STB after 4PM
Sponsored by UHH Sociology, Philosophy, and Women's Studies Dept., and Malu 'Aina
Ann Wright will also be speaking at 4PM on Jan. 17th during the 3-8PM Aloha Uprising gathering at the Kamehameha Statue on Hilo Bayfront marking the 120th anniversary of the illegal overthrow of Queen Liliuokalani in 1893
Aloha 'Aina Pohakuloa “Stop the Bombing” Protest
Saturday, January 19, 2013
10 AM – till Noon
Pohakuloa Main Gate on Saddle Rd.
(car pools leave Hilo bayfront parking lot makai/Hamakua side of Pauahi St. Kamehameha Ave. intersection at 9AM sharp. Bring water, sunscreen, and be prepared for cool, possibly wet, weather)
Pohakuloa is the largest U.S. live-fire training area outside the continental U.S. It is 133,000-acres, nearly 5 times the size of Kaho'olawe. The base is known to be contaminated with Depleted Uranium (DU) and other military toxins. Continued bombing risks spreading the radiation and other toxic contamination.
Pohakuloa is also used for Unmanned Aerial Vehicle (Drone) training. The U.S. is using drones in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia, Sudan, the Philippines, etc. for surveillance and targeted assassinations. Thousands of people, including many innocent children, have been killed by U.S. drones resulting in increasing hatred of the U.S. around the world.
Aloha Not Killer Drones!
1. Mourn all victims of violence. 2. Reject war as a solution. 3. Defend civil liberties. 4. Oppose all discrimination, anti-Islamic, anti-Semitic, anti-Hawaiian, etc.
5. Seek peace through justice in Hawai`i and around the world.
Malu `Aina Center for Non-violent Education & Action P.O. Box AB Kurtistown, Hawai`i 96760.
Phone (808) 966-7622 Emai ja@malu-aina.org http://www.malu-aina.org
Hilo Peace Vigil leaflet (Jan. 11, 2013– 590th week) - Friday 3:30-5PM downtown Post Office
"Killer Drones in Pakistan, Afghanistan, Gaza and the US"
Col. (Ret.) Ann Wright
Thursday, Jan. 17, 2013
6:30 – 8 pm UH Hilo
Science & Technology Bldg (STB) Room 108
(new building on Lanikaula St. across from the Church of the Holy Cross)
free street parking and in parking lot near STB after 4PM
This free presentation will be followed by Q&A and the public is invited
Sponsored by UHH Sociology, Philosophy, and Women's Studies Dept., and Malu 'Aina
Well-known and outspoken Ann Wright, a citizen activist with extensive experience standing up for peace, human rights and the rights of war resisters and other veterans and government whistle-blowers, will give a slide-talk on US drone strikes: their increasing use, the dire effects on civilian populations, and implications for US domestic and foreign policy.
In October, November, and December, 2012, Wright made separate trips to Pakistan, Gaza and Afghanistan. She will talk about her experiences concerning the use of drones in all three countries. She will also talk about being a witness in a court hearing in Istanbul on the indictment of 4 senior Israeli officials for the murder of 9 activists and the wounding of 50 more on the ship Mavi Marmara in the 2010 Gaza Freedom Flotilla.
Background about our speaker: Ann Wright holds a Master’s and a law degree from the University of Arkansas and a master’s degree in national security affairs from the U.S. Naval War College. She spent 13 years in the U.S. Army and 16 additional years in the Army Reserves, retiring as a Colonel.
In 1987, Col. Ann Wright joined the Foreign Service and served as U.S. Deputy Ambassador in Sierra Leone, Micronesia, Afghanistan, and Mongolia. She received the State Department’s Award for Heroism for her actions during the evacuation of 2,500 people from the civil war in Sierra Leone, the largest evacuation since Saigon. She was on the first State Department team to go into Afghanistan and reopen the Embassy there in December 2001. Her other overseas assignments include Mongolia, Somalia, Kyrgyzstan, Grenada, Micronesia, and Nicaragua.
After her distinguished 16 years in the Foreign Service, on March 19, 2003, the eve of the U.S. invasion of Iraq, Ann Wright cabled a letter of resignation to Secretary of State Colin Powell, stating that without the authorization of the UN Security Council, the invasion and occupation of a Muslim, Arab, oil-rich country would be a disaster.
Since then, she has been writing and speaking out for peace. She fasted for a month, picketed at Guantánamo, served as a juror in impeachment hearings, and has been arrested numerous times for peaceful, nonviolent protest. She is an activist for peace and human rights who participated in the Gaza Freedom March and the the Gaza aid flotillas of 2010, 2011 and 2012.
Ann's home is in Honolulu. She is the co-author of the book "Dissent: Voices of Conscience" (www.voicesofconscience.com).
Contact: Malu `Aina Center for Non-violent Education & Action P.O. Box AB Kurtistown, Hawai`i 96760.
"An idea whose time has come cannot be stopped" Dr. Ron Paul 2012
RE: Killer Drones - pahoated - 01-11-2013
Wait until these start showing up in the Pacific later this year or next.
X-47B on carrier deck
http://blogs.defensenews.com/intercepts/files/2012/12/CVN75121209-N-UK248-08smb3.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=bdY-V0uqaHQ#!
X-47B Unmanned Combat Air Systems (UCAS) Demonstrator
Initially, there will be squadrons of these with one human piloted plane providing escort and additional coordination but there are plans for completely autonomous missions. The "pilots" will be under the flight deck or somewhere else entirely. I have seen simulations where these UCAV and UCAS are equipped with nuclear tipped cruise missiles, given a general mission objective and provisions for going autonomous in the event of a communications linke break. In about 5 years, Skynet will become self aware and we enter the age of Aquarius, then peace will guide the planet and love will steer the stars.
"It was a majority decision to descend into the Dark Ages. Don't worry, be happy, bang on da drum all day!"
RE: Killer Drones - kalakoa - 01-11-2013
We should be more worried about Green Harvest "upgrading" to drones.
Simply put: if a drone costs one tenth as much as a helicopter, they can fly ten times as many patrols -- because passing that 90% savings along to the taxpayers is just silly.
RE: Killer Drones - rainyjim - 01-11-2013
2030 - drones are checking the height of your lawn. You receive your fine via mail if your grass is above regulated heights.
Cheers
rainyjim
RE: Killer Drones - dmbwest - 01-11-2013
This stuff is fascinating to me ... Are you guys gonna be respectful and let her talk or be hurling a barrage of socially mistimed, inappropriate comments ?
pog, droning on
RE: Killer Drones - Obie - 01-11-2013
I have one of these !
http://gizmodo.com/5931424/parrot-ar-drone-20-review-your-own-private-predator
I upgraded the cameras and I am watching you !
RE: Killer Drones - Bullwinkle - 01-12-2013
Just noticed a segment on the Chinese deploying them as well - wonder if we will be seeing chinese spy drones this far out - seems the fact that they are unmanned removes many political problems when they "stray"
I am very concerned as to how air traffic control will handle this new technology - firm believer that having a pilot with a life to loose make make different decisions then some one who's shift is about to end....
"United 1058, cleared for landing at ITO, runway 27 number two behind the confused chinese drone.....
RE: Killer Drones - oink - 01-12-2013
quote:
I have one of these !
http://gizmodo.com/5931424/parrot-ar-drone-20-review-your-own-private-predator
So do I but I'm not competent with it yet but I hope to be able to look in my neighbors windows soon, jk, but I do have one I'm still trying to learn. Flight time per charge is too short for long training sessions. I'm hoping for use for cheap real estate aerial photo shoots. Well see. Got it from the verizon store for $270 with corporate discount.
Pua`a
S. FL
Big Islander to be.
RE: Killer Drones - Guest - 01-12-2013
the FAA predicts 30,000 drones in our sky come 2020. No doubt the Chinese will be flying drones over us, we can't resist flying them over and bombing almost everyone in the Middle East and northern Africa.
“Setting a good example is a far better way to spread ideals than through force of arms.”
-Ron Paul
RE: Killer Drones - pahoated - 01-12-2013
Looks like the Guard and Army have some surveillance drones for training over Pohakuloa:
http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/20110525_hawaii_guard_gets_flock_of_shadow_UAVs.html?id=122575099
Hawaii Guard gets flock of Shadow UAVs
Drones is a word being used generically these days when there are several different categories of UAV's. Drone used to refer to target drones in the 60's, and drones were basically "peaceful", meaning just used for surveillance and intelligence gathering. The whole armed combat UAV started when there was a surplus of F-16's as it was being phased out and some Air Force R/C guys, that were also concerned about their job security, modified some to be full size R/C airplanes. So, we now have, UCAV. This is the "cockpit" of the Reaper (descendant of the Predator), located in Reno.
http://images.gizmag.com/gallery_lrg/6422_1110675645.jpg
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