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UH Pharmacy Building - Wuzzerdad - 02-07-2013
http://hilo.hawaiitribune-herald.com/files/eedition/2013/2/7/#/1/
I thought when I decieded to move to Hawaii these kind of things would be all but a bad memory.
Now the Pharmacy College has to spend Millions of dollars or risk being shut down because somebody thinks they should have a fancy building.
Who pays for it?, well the students do naturally. And the tax payers. And the cost keeps going up, higher and higher. I always thought it should be about the education recieved, not about the Pyramid built with some politicians name on it. [
]I started out with nothing and I still have most of it.
Mahalo
Rick
RE: UH Pharmacy Building - Carey - 02-07-2013
The building planned will be 'fancy' to some extent...but SHOULD be (there in lies the rub) cheaper than the current arrangements of portables & high office rent (although based on the past, the portables will probably be permanent additions to the campus...) I really think that this article may have been written more by Pezzuto as a cash influx measure, as if the money was sooo tight I doubt his offices would have been where they were, and would have been in a small old portable...
I am going to take a wild stab that you may not have been on campus in the last few years... the changes that have been made since 2008 are way more than this one building...
UH-Hilo campus has added a student life center, new bookstore, and a Paley statue (I like some of his work...just do not think it captures UH-Hilo, Hilo or Hawaii... but like most art...it is to each)
All of this along with building the new administration buildings, adding the Hawaiian language college building (which has been in portable buildings for way over a decade) and is finishing the framing up of 3 new dorms (which I personally question the total use of wood framing on those HUGE buildings...the TENTING costs will be huge on each of the 3!) along with installing solar panels on just about everything (last year the campus electric bill was over $500,000 OVER THE BUDGET!)
RE: UH Pharmacy Building - EightFingers - 02-07-2013
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RE: UH Pharmacy Building - kalakoa - 02-07-2013
I got "requires Javascript, here's how to enable it in your browser".
(It's a non-javascript-capable browser, on purpose.)
Yes: Universities used to be about "education", now they're often about "infrastructure", I'm sure it's totally unrelated to the way student loan debt is both taxpayer-guaranteed *and* not eligible for discharge in a bankruptcy. Just. A. Coincidence.
RE: UH Pharmacy Building - Carey - 02-07-2013
It is todays front page, so wait a couple of day, but it is a little more over the top WE NEED MONEY (this has been the Pharmacy College mantra...) than this story a couple of weeks ago by West Hawaii today...basic are close, though..
http://westhawaiitoday.com/sections/news/local-news/uh-hilo-lobbying-college-pharmacy-funding.html
ADDED:
Actually, more colleges & universities are paring down buildings...what with some being totally on line....but of course pharmacy will need some building....labs & such must comply with safety & really want future pharmacists to have a safe lab to work in!
Not sure WHEN infrastructure was not important for universities...perhaps in Socrates time...but my thought of universities is with the old ivy strewn buildings...cannot think of a time in the last few centuries when that wasn't the image of universities...
RE: UH Pharmacy Building - Obie - 02-07-2013
Try this link:
http://hawaiitribune-herald.com/sections/news/local-news/college-pharmacy-could-be-danger-losing-accreditation.html
RE: UH Pharmacy Building - kalakoa - 02-07-2013
Article says $66M. I'm curious how much of that is for the "building" and how much of that is for "ancillary costs" (insurance, certification, government "incentives", land-use changes, etc).
Exercise for the reader: how much would the UHH campus cost in today's dollars if all the buildings had to meet today's "code requirements"?
Related: compare today's "administrative overhead" to that of 20 years ago. Tuition is supposedly for an "education". (Much in the same way that "insurance premiums" should result in "services", but often don't.)
RE: UH Pharmacy Building - Carey - 02-07-2013
UH-HIlo may not be the best example for the Tuition exercise...as it is noted for having one of the lowest tuition in the nation...one of the draws for the pharmacy college is that even out of state tuition is 1/3 - 1/2 less than the national average:
http://www.collegesurfing.com/content/how-much-does-pharmacy-degree-cost/
http://hilo.hawaii.edu/uhh/bo/tuition_schedule.php
So more of the tuition IS going for basics (with huge state/fed overwriting of little things like the cost of the buildings...along with some investors buying bonds...and a few very generous souls that endow schools...)
RE: UH Pharmacy Building - Wuzzerdad - 02-07-2013
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Originally posted by Carey
UH-HIlo may not be the best example for the Tuition exercise...as it is noted for having one of the lowest tuition in the nation...one of the draws for the pharmacy college is that even out of state tuition is 1/3 - 1/2 less than the national average:
http://www.collegesurfing.com/content/how-much-does-pharmacy-degree-cost/
http://hilo.hawaii.edu/uhh/bo/tuition_schedule.php
So more of the tuition IS going for basics (with huge state/fed overwriting of little things like the cost of the buildings...along with some investors buying bonds...and a few very generous souls that endow schools...)
Yes. I agree and would like for it to stay that way...[
I started out with nothing and I still have most of it.
Mahalo
Rick