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Our family has two good opportunities to purchase - TamooMeadows - 10-16-2013
We were preparing an offer for one of the properties available at Kopua Farm Lots when a neighbor near our rental in Papaikou offered a half acre secluded land for near(ly) the same price as 20 acres in Kopua.
For those of you familiar with the areas, which would you choose? Our concerns with Kopua that have us leaning toward Papaikou are conflicting statements from real estate agents verses our first person experiences after several drive through inspections of the area. We have never witnessed the dangers told run amok in Kopua, Eden Roc. Here in Papaikou we feel very safe. The other hesitation voting for Kopua, we are told the area is unsafe with wild pigs and gardening difficult because of lava & red ants, etc... that would be difficult to overcome. Papaikou seems to be perfect for growing everything but mangos plus the half acre is nestled uniquely secluding unwanted visitors or animals.
Would you be so kind as to advise is Kopua lawless? Could you leave your home for a week without returning to a stripped house? Is barbwire fencing really necessary? Is there considerable extra labor in maintaining fruits, vegetables once planted?
Thank you in advance for your replies.
All Our Best.
RE: Our family has two good opportunities to purchase - jrw - 10-16-2013
I live in Eden Roc for three years and never had any of trouble that people talk about up here. I know a couple who live in Kopua farm lots They both love it there.Your are not going have any deep soil there but there is alot of farms. If I was you I would take the time to go and talk to some people who acutal live in Kopua and find what they have to say.Your are going to find wild pigs in Papiakou they are everwhere on this island I have seen only 4or5 pigs in eden roc. I find out people talk about things that happen 15 or 20 years ago and make sound like it happen yesterday
jrw
RE: Our family has two good opportunities to purchase - bluesboy - 10-16-2013
Kopua does not have any electricity. You will have to go solar. It is a safe, low key area. If you put your house/structures away and out of sight of the road no one will ever know if you're home or not. Note it has been a relatively dry year in Mtn View.
The question sounds like - do you want to live near the ocean and around people on a small lot, or live in the mountains away from most people on a large lot?
RE: Our family has two good opportunities to purchase - Cagary - 10-16-2013
As far as gardening goes Papaikou is by far the better choice. I have about 8 acres just north of you in Pepeekeo. The soil is deep and you can grow everything tropical. (Who told you no mangoes??? There are many huge mango trees in this area producing bountiful harvests of delicious fruit.) There are plenty of pigs in the area, but a well maintained hog wire fence will keep them at bay. I'm not saying Kopua is lawless, but IMHO Papaikou is a safer place. In Kopua I don't think that there is any extra labor maintaining fruits and vegetables once planted. The problem you might have is getting them planted in the first place. Most likely you'll have to bring in TONS of soil to get your garden started.
The point that jumps out at me as far as the Papaikou offer goes though is that you are being offered half an acre. Once you build a house, carve out a driveway, put up a car port and put in a catchment tank, how much room are you really going to have for a garden? You might want to sketch out your plans on a piece of paper and see how much you can really fit in half an acre.
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RE: Our family has two good opportunities to purchase - csgray - 10-16-2013
I had a third of an acre on the mainland and it was plenty big enough for orchard trees and a garden, even with a house and other infrastructure.
Carol
RE: Our family has two good opportunities to purchase - DanielP - 10-16-2013
How can half an acre be secluded? Neighboring vacant lots? Forever vacant?
RE: Our family has two good opportunities to purchase - fishnchamp1 - 10-16-2013
Not to veer too far off topic, but Cagary I have heard the same thing, that mangoes get their flowers washed out by the rains and never produce fruit! I wasn't too sure about all that when I heard it and was gonna plant em anyways. Thanks for confirming otherwise...
William DeBoe
Boca Raton, FL
Honomu, HI sometime 2015
Moe'uhane Oihana mahi ai
RE: Our family has two good opportunities to purchase - Cagary - 10-16-2013
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Originally posted by fishnchamp1
Not to veer too far off topic, but Cagary I have heard the same thing, that mangoes get their flowers washed out by the rains and never produce fruit! I wasn't too sure about all that when I heard it and was gonna plant em anyways. Thanks for confirming otherwise...
William DeBoe
Boca Raton, FL
Honomu, HI sometime 2015
Moe'uhane Oihana mahi ai
Mango trees in east Hawaii can be inconsistent and seldom yield a large harvest every year. Too much rain during the flowering period can limit the production. Another reason for few mangoes one year is that the previous year produced a bumper crop. The year after a great harvest, the trees rest and produce few if any fruit.
One solution is to plant early, mid season and late season varieties. Correct fertilization is also very important.
-Veritas odium parit”(Terence 195–159 BC))-"Truth begets hatred".
RE: Our family has two good opportunities to purchase - Radiopeg - 10-16-2013
You aren't expecting half an acre to support you, are you? I have been in Eden Roc for several years. I have not seen a pig there. I really like the fact it is cooler up here. You can't grow the same things you do at the level below 500 feet, but you still have many choices. I had my baby mango produce its first fruit this year. We have had no problems. My neighbors are all good. I agree, talk to Kopua farm lots residents.
Peace and long life
RE: Our family has two good opportunities to purchase - TamooMeadows - 10-17-2013
Thank you all for your contributions.
Daniel, the land is part of the old railway. The lot is basically a ravine with 40ft. berms on each side. "Above ground" on either side are dead end roads. The "Back" of the property drops 40ft. into a river. The right of way is part of the current owners private drive. We would be pretty secluded.