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cemetery - babawawasrk - 10-22-2014
my family worked in sugar mill in 1920s . they are buried at pahoa cemetery. Are they going to move the bodies or? grampa does not want 4feet of lava there?? thx for help sk
RE: cemetery - 2liveque - 10-22-2014
Who owns the cemetary? Is it a catholic grave yard? Is it still used or abandoned?
RE: cemetery - Rob Tucker - 10-22-2014
It is likely there are a number of charted and uncharted graves in the path of this flow. I do not think they will be relocated.
RE: cemetery - Kelena - 10-22-2014
The graves at Kapoho were not relocated. If I recall, a marker or two is visible there. In mitigation, a burial site remains one if it is covered even further. And we have no evidence at all that the dead care. Only the living care and that is because they think the dead might. As a genealogist, I would photograph the marker and GPS it. I knew where my great-grandfather was buried, but there was no headstone. So I put one there.
And, of course, you may be able to relocate the grave at your expense. If you need me to photograph something for you, I'd be happy to do that.
RE: cemetery - leilaniguy - 10-22-2014
Most, if not all of the graves are Buddhist, if a local friend is correct. His congregation has been saying final prayers in the last few weeks for the ancestors. I don't think there will be any relocation.
RE: cemetery - Kapohocat - 10-22-2014
You can relocate burials with permission of the descendents and the cemetery, and applicable government agencies.
It is neither an easy nor inexpensive process.
VA Cemeteries typically waive their exhume fees.
I think the GPS idea is a good idea.
http://www.hawaii-aloha.com/blog/2011/02/14/burial-relocation-protests-in-hawaii/
RE: cemetery - ericlp - 10-23-2014
The problem is, where will you move them? 90% of the entire island will be covered with lava again. But it is an interesting question. I guess just get the long/lat coordinates and mark the area again after the flow. Maybe they could save the headstones and move them back after?
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RE: cemetery - PunaMauka2 - 10-23-2014
indeed it is an interesting question. i suppose it all depends on how surviving relatives choose to feel bout it. ...as destruction of a burial site, or more and brand new earth further covering the remains naturally. (if desired, the suggestion of GPS used to pinpoint the location of individual graves after lava inundation sounds like a reasonable one to me).
interesting to consider that most burial places on this island will eventually be covered and encased by lava. and looking even further ahead all of it will eventually be eroded or submerged into the ocean as the island chain moves on down the line. beyond that, the entire planet will eventually be cosmically recycled. perhaps the best option for burial longevity would be graves in intergalactic space.
RE: cemetery - Kelena - 10-23-2014
That's where the spaceport comes in!
RE: cemetery - HereOnThePrimalEdge - 10-23-2014
It seems that some types of metal survive the lava flow:
https://www.facebook.com/kapaahueducationcenter/photos/a.1493242007553934.1073741834.1416743201870482/1493242047553930/?type=1&theater
Perhaps it would be possible to anchor a long metal pipe into the ground near the grave, and if the lava flows around it you would have a marker in the exact spot of your loved ones burial site.