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Public comment sought on General Plan - ironyak - 02-10-2015

This means you kalakoa (and everyone else Smile

Excerpt: More at link below

It’s the document that dictates what can be developed where.

It governs population density, urban design, infrastructure improvements, public access and preservation of natural resources and open spaces. The General Plan is the policy document for the long-range comprehensive development of Hawaii Island.

Last updated in February 2005, it was scheduled to have a new update completed by this month. That’s not going to happen.

Instead, a process that kicked off Friday will solicit public comments until June 6. Then the planning director has until April 2017 to review the public comments and prepare recommended amendments. Public workshops will be held that summer, and then public hearings until the plan is adopted by the County Council in February 2018.

Planning Director Duane Kanuha, addressing the County Council Planning Committee in April, said a combination of factors caused the plan amendment process to slip off the drawing board. First, the department, under the previous director Bobby Jean Leithead Todd, was busy creating Community Development Plans to allow more community input into the planning process. That pulled staff off the General Plan during the recessionary years when furloughs and position freezes led to staff shortages.

“Once you have the Community Development Plans adopted … then the General Plan becomes a linkage that keeps the Community Development Plans together,” Kanuha said at the time. “I don’t see there’s a need to integrate any policy plans.” Kanuha didn’t return calls Friday or Monday for additional comment.

The county currently has five CDPs — Kona, South Kohala, North Kohala, Puna and Downtown Hilo — and two more — Ka‘u and Hamakua — in the works. Hamakua Councilwoman Valerie Poindexter said she can accept the delay in the General Plan because the creation of CDPs has really helped the communities.

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RE: Public comment sought on General Plan - kalakoa - 02-10-2015

Not to have an "attitude problem" or anything, but the CDPs already clearly state what development will be allowed where. Reinforcing these with an overall General Plan may be necessary for the overall legislative structure, but it's unlikely that the GP will override any particular CDP requirement.

the creation of CDPs has really helped the communities.

I see the PCDP preventing development. Not sure how this is "really helping", but let's assume it is at least preventing "bad development". Further presume that preventing "bad" development opens the way for "good" development. Now show me one new business that has broken ground (eg, not moving into an existing commercial space) in Puna since the passage of the PCDP. (Partial credit for the Keaau HMSA building; it seems to be mostly a move/consolidation, not "new" like the proverbial Pahoa KTA.)

Speaking of which: I can hardly wait for the HMSA building to open -- it's fully compliant with all stipulations of the PCDP, so the surrounding area should suffer zero side effects, right? Because development plans are so awesome.



RE: Public comment sought on General Plan - rainyjim - 02-10-2015

If it's not to much to ask I've got three things off the top of my head: (haven't a clue if any of these things apply to whatever the government defines a GP as, I'm sure someone will enlighten me)

1. No more driveways onto highways, and remove existing driveways (idk how that'll happen but hey isn't that what we pay state/county people to figure out?)

2. Complementing #1 - Frontage roads.

I'm talking safety here.

3. Let's get our own branch of HDOT over here on the big island. It's clear the bozos on Oahu haven't a clue. I will say Oahu seems just as dysfunctional / Stupidly planned (or lack thereof) as the big island, so at least we aren't getting any special treatment ; )


RE: Public comment sought on General Plan - ironyak - 02-11-2015

Keeau Development Meeting tonight 2/11/2015 @ 5:30p to gather comments on designating hundreds of acres for Urban Expansion Area with mixed-use development.

http://punaweb.org/Forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=20597


RE: Public comment sought on General Plan - ironyak - 02-12-2015

Originally posted by rainyjim
1. No more driveways onto highways, and remove existing driveways (idk how that'll happen but hey isn't that what we pay state/county people to figure out?)
2. Complementing #1 - Frontage roads.


While safety on the state and county highways is addressed, I don't believe the driveway onto highway issue is in GP or PCDP. Easiest way to improve safety is to reduce speeds, which has been done on 130 in areas with lots of egress including driveways. Another option might be to require extra shoulder space to allow for pulling off before slowing down to turn into a driveway. Worth commenting about on GP and PCDP methinks.

Having driven many a Sunday mile on frontage roads, I understand the appeal. IMHO, unlikely to happen here, unless you count PMAR (which is similar but also has been unlikely to implement)

3. Let's get our own branch of HDOT over here on the big island.
We have a branch although I've found it difficult to get a reponse from them many times. Given GP has no action items on health for Puna, plenty of room for suggestions (like read the PCDP section on health services to start)
http://health.hawaii.gov/big-island/


RE: Public comment sought on General Plan - kalakoa - 02-12-2015

"No direct highway access" is spelled out in the PCDP as it pertains to "commercial center" development.

Highway access is also subject to permits from HDOT because it's a State highway.

Agree that HDOT has an "Oahu-centric" worldview; it's one of the reasons that Pearl Bakery gave up the fight -- Hilo HDOT said their driveway was just fine, Oahu HDOT had a list of changes that were unrealistic and unnecessary.



RE: Public comment sought on General Plan - pbmaise - 03-01-2015

It is the break neck speed of this plan that concerns me the most. Just updated in 2005 and implementation as soon as Feb 2018?

Here are the links to the plan. The document is almost 400 pages long. I encourage people to review and make public comments.

First comment should be why it takes 10 months to review public comment?

http://www.hawaiicountycdp.info/puna-cdp/draft-plan-recommendations

http://www.hawaiicountycdp.info/puna-cdp



RE: Public comment sought on General Plan - Wao nahele kane - 03-13-2015

Anything in Puna within and South of the Basin to Volcanoes National Park.

I'm curious as to why the PCDP assumes heavy development and sprawl will occur throughout this region and it must be managed as proposed. I find that such concerns are valid in the majority of near urban zones about the United States but such consideration within the shadows of one of the most active volcanos in world approaches a certain disregard for reality.

I would add that the growth in this region of Puna is not accompanied by newly established subdivisions but rather an occupation of that which has already been designated. In this case, there has been little to no previously undesignated area sprawl. Nor will there be due to the presence of Kilauea's activity. This again is like no other circumstances experienced by other planning efforts in the USA.

I see the PCDP as a gallant effort and well thought out North of the Basin but within the basin and South of it there is a disconnect from it's dynamic nature and certain absence in foresight to these dynamics and the situations that will be encountered.

I'd like to see that which is addressed within the Basin and South of it "re-visited" with dynamic consideration applied. No designated park will prove itself of intended value when inundated by lava. I would like to see the permanence standards devolved into acceptance of mobility and other flexibilities accompanied by a broader range of necessary options. These dynamics should be inclusive of a wider range in ingress/egress options as well as dwelling and commercial building practices. Special zoning allowances can be applied to a region that is exposed to higher incidents of unique natural hazards and the PCDP should call for and apply these dynamic needs.


RE: Public comment sought on General Plan - Wao nahele kane - 03-13-2015

As an example regarding an applied dynamic for this region, lets consider fueling stations and their current immobility. In the following link we see that fuel tanks can be made mobile for stationary application and actually provide additional benefits in being designed as such.
http://www.unitedconcrete.com/convault/head_convault.htm

This is something that should be outlined in the PCDP with regard to the allowed fueling station types in this region accompanied by a required designated backup location in case of primary location inundation. Dynamic planning.


RE: Public comment sought on General Plan - Wao nahele kane - 03-13-2015

Planning in the aforementioned method serves not only to reduce loss. It also serves to automatically fulfill public need in a time of crisis and affords the fueling station owner a substantial reduction in financial loss due to inundation or threat of inundation allowing them to continue business as usual after a substantially lower cost move assuming it even needs to move. The station owner is also afforded greater flexibility in their need to act as we saw in the case of the propane station near the Malama market location. This also reduces the added demands placed upon emergency services during such crisis by reducing demands upon logistic considerations.

There are many more like type things that should be in the PCDP.