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The possible end of Cruise Ships in Hawaii - Guest - 12-10-2007
A new rule is being proposed that may end all cruise ships except for Norwegian Cruise lines.
The proposed rule will require foreign-flagged ships to spend at least 48 hours in a foreign port when sailing U.S. routes and that the port time in those foreign destinations be at least 50 percent of the total port time of the itinerary.
If this rule passes, most cruise lines will have to give up their Hawaii itineraries or offer extra-long sailings that spend half the cruise in Hawaii and the other half in foreign countries. NCL America's three U.S.-flagged ships would corner the market on Hawaii cruising with their all-Hawaii itineraries.
From the article:
Proposed rule may force cruise lines out of Hawaii
http://www.smartertravel.com/blogs/ship-to-shore/proposed-rule-may-force-cruise-lines-out-of-hawaii.html?id=2476788
So to all of those that are relying on this form of tourism to facilitate your income, you might want to look at some other options if this rule get's implemented.
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Edited by - damon on 12/10/2007 12:10:41
Edited by - damon on 12/10/2007 12:11:24
RE: The possible end of Cruise Ships in Hawaii - Guest - 12-10-2007
Carey -
The big difference if this proposed rule goes through, is that will require foreign-flagged ships to spend at least 48 hours in a foreign port when sailing U.S. routes and that the port time in those foreign destinations be at least 50 percent of the total port time of the itinerary.
This 50 percent of total port time would not make it feasible.
The 48 hours thing also tighten things down. Before the cruise ships would just stop over at Fanning Island. Now they have to stay for 2 days!
They would have to do "7 days in Hawaii as well as 7 days somewhere else"
And cruise ships aren't going to advertise a "14 day trip with only 7 of those days in Hawaii and 7 of those days in the Fanning Islands"
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Edited by - damon on 12/10/2007 14:42:19
RE: The possible end of Cruise Ships in Hawaii - Kapohocat - 12-10-2007
quote:
...if this proposed rule goes through, is that will require foreign-flagged ships to spend at least 48 hours in a foreign port when sailing U.S. routes and that the port time in those foreign destinations be at least 50 percent of the total port time of the itinerary.
This 50 percent of total port time would not make it feasible.
They would have to do "7 days in Hawaii as well as 7 days somewhere else"
And cruise ships aren't going to advertise a "14 day trip with only 7 of those days in Hawaii and 7 of those days in the Fanning Islands"
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Edited by - damon on 12/10/2007 14:00:52
I wonder, just out of curiosity, how much money Norwegian Cruise Lines put into lobbying for this rule that is being proposed.
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Edited by - kapohocat on 12/10/2007 14:29:10
RE: The possible end of Cruise Ships in Hawaii - Guest - 12-10-2007
quote:
I wonder, just out of curiosity, how much money Norwegian Cruise Lines put into lobbying for this rule that is being proposed....
Good question, so I looked a little deeper and see that Abercrombie pulled in some $:
Abercrombie, Neil (D-HI) $10,000
And the only two other House reps:
Oberstar, James L (D-MN) $1,000
Skelton, Ike (D-MO) $2,500
As well as this guy in the Senate:
Levin, Carl (D-MI) $2,500
But it is interesting that Abercrombie had the MOST contributed to him by NCL.
http://opensecrets.org/pacs/pacgot.asp?strID=C00388611&Cycle=2008
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RE: The possible end of Cruise Ships in Hawaii - missydog1 - 12-10-2007
very interesting, thanks!
yes, they still stop at Fanning. I know someone who went, just last month. They stayed one day and spent about 5 days doing the round trip to and from Fanning.
RE: The possible end of Cruise Ships in Hawaii - loffelkopffl - 12-10-2007
sounds good to me, we need less not more, i'm sure walmart will miss them, lol
RE: The possible end of Cruise Ships in Hawaii - Guest - 12-10-2007
I find it very funny that the kona blog is taking credit for "stumbling" across this article.
Edited by - damon on 12/10/2007 19:14:29
RE: The possible end of Cruise Ships in Hawaii - Aaron S - 12-10-2007
Lets rewind here. You posted the information in a publicly accessible forum.So in a lot of ways I did stumble upon the article you posted.
Food for thought, if you had a blog I would've given you credit for finding the article. But since I found the information in a publicly accessible forum, I don't see that as necessary.
RE: The possible end of Cruise Ships in Hawaii - Greg - 12-10-2007
Aaron, If this blog was the source you "stumbled" upon, it should be credited as such. To do otherwise would diminish Kona Blog's credibility. With respect, greg
Edited by - greg on 12/10/2007 21:06:36
RE: The possible end of Cruise Ships in Hawaii - Guest - 12-10-2007
quote:
Lets rewind here. You posted the information in a publicly accessible forum.So in a lot of ways I did stumble upon the article you posted.
Food for thought, if you had a blog I would've given you credit for finding the article. But since I found the information in a publicly accessible forum, I don't see that as necessary.
Aaron -
I'm not going to get into things with you. Rewind all you want. The point of the matter is that I stumbled across something and you credited yourself with it.
On with the real subject at hand.
The cruise industry is a relatively new thing here in Hawaii and people can survive without.
I'm sure the ecosystem can too.
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Edited by - damon on 12/10/2007 21:29:52