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more traffic lights on 11 - kalakoa - 02-17-2016
http://www.hawaiitribune-herald.com/news/local-news/traffic-lights-sought-highway-11-intersection
W.H. Shipman wants to add traffic lights on Highway 11 to aid motorists driving into its business park, and is seeking a $2.75 million appropriation to get the project done.
How "ironic", when SureSave wanted a traffic light at Orchidland/130, they had to pay -- which obligation was relieved by bankruptcy. Now Shipman wants a traffic light, and we get to pay for it. Why not a roundabout, aren't they superior?
RE: more traffic lights on 11 - HereOnThePrimalEdge - 02-17-2016
When a proposal to rezone the property at Hwy 130 and Auli'i was submitted, same thing, businesses were told they needed to pay $250,000 for a stop light, maybe more for turn lanes. Should have named it the "Shipman Mini-Mall" or "Uncle Robert's Shops and Things."
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RE: more traffic lights on 11 - Kapoho Joe - 02-17-2016
That will sure put a dent in the HPD speed trap at the top of the rise coming from Volcano side.
RE: more traffic lights on 11 - Frankie Stapleton - 02-17-2016
I'd be much more willing to support a traffic light at the Shipman entrance if Bill Wallters would quit doing everything in his power to prevent a lower Puna access road between Kapoho and Hilo!
RE: more traffic lights on 11 - Kapoho Joe - 02-17-2016
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Originally posted by Frankie Stapleton
I'd be much more willing to support a traffic light at the Shipman entrance if Bill Wallters would quit doing everything in his power to prevent a lower Puna access road between Kapoho and Hilo!
I agree 110%, however what makes you think that the man who can block such an access road isn't going to get a traffic light if he wants one?
RE: more traffic lights on 11 - kalakoa - 02-17-2016
Just wait for the traffic jams when DOT doesn't bother to synchronize this new light with 130/11...
RE: more traffic lights on 11 - terracore - 02-17-2016
This is ridiculous. How many tens of thousands of people are going to get longer commute times every day and how many thousands of barrels of oil will that cause to be imported so 1,000 people can shave a few seconds off THEIR commute? NO WAY!
RE: more traffic lights on 11 - HereOnThePrimalEdge - 02-17-2016
How many tens of thousands of people are going to get longer commute times every day
Time, gas, oil - - and we the taxpayers will pay for Shipman's stoplight costing us our time and gas while we're stuck in traffic!
"How we spend our days is, of course, how we spend our lives." -Annie Dillard
RE: more traffic lights on 11 - Kapoho Joe - 02-17-2016
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Originally posted by terracore
This is ridiculous. How many tens of thousands of people are going to get longer commute times every day and how many thousands of barrels of oil will that cause to be imported so 1,000 people can shave a few seconds off THEIR commute? NO WAY!
Isn't it more about being able to market the Shipman Industrial Lots as having improved ingress/egress?
RE: more traffic lights on 11 - Tink - 02-17-2016
And don't forget rigging the signal so you are forced to read the signboard of the commercial enterprises within...
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