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Hibiscus schizopetalus and other questions - Susan - 06-02-2016

Does anyone know of a nursery source for the plant in the subject line? AKA Japanese Lantern?

My Mountain Apple is loaded with fruit. It has the same black sooty stuff on the leaves and branches as does the Ohia. What is the recommended treatment?

Plant problems in paradise lol

The Rainbow Shower tree appears to have a type of chocolate brown fungi on the trunk. Leave it alone, scrape it off, treat it ?

Sorry for all the questions.
Thanks, Susan



RE: Hibiscus schizopetalus and other questions - Carey - 06-02-2016

The black sounds like sooty mold, usually from scale, whitefly or aphids. can be washed off & neem soap or any botanical soap or oil-soap is usually good for both the sooty mold (actually a fungus) and the scale, whitefly or aphids
No need to keep the fungus on the shower tree & it can harbor moisture



RE: Hibiscus schizopetalus and other questions - Andy - 06-08-2016

Try
vintagegreenfarms.com. for the hibiscus

Wholesale, by appointment

Be careful using Neem. Really good at killing bees


RE: Hibiscus schizopetalus and other questions - bananahead - 06-14-2016

on the African Coral Hibiscus ....try cuttings from right side of road about 1/2 block up Papaya Farms Road ie a block past Cinderland on Red Rd, turn left and then look for it growing on the right side...... thats where I got my first cutting, and I have about 8 of the plants going great now... although its trippy looking... its actually a natural Hibiscus species native to Africa, usually called Skeleton Hibiscus, Coral Hibiscus, or Spider Hibiscus....
aloha

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save our indigenous and endemic Hawaiian Plants... learn about them, grow them, and plant them on your property, ....instead of all that invasive non-native garbage I see in most yards... aloha


RE: Hibiscus schizopetalus and other questions - Susan - 06-18-2016

Thanks Andy and bananahead.


RE: Hibiscus schizopetalus and other questions - kaialoha - 06-21-2016

Actually Susan, Neem doesn't harm bees.

Effects of Neem Oil on Honey Bees and Beneficial Insects:

Does Neem oil hurt honey bees and other beneficial insects? A: Insecticides kill insects. That's why they are called insecticides. Usually pesticides make no difference beween pests and beneficial insects. But Neem oil is different. Neem oil is not really a knock down, kill-on-contact insecticide like the chemical poisons. Neem must be ingested (eaten by the bugs) to be effective.

If bugs don't eat leaves they don't get hurt. Simple.

In reality it is a little bit more complicated than that, but the fact remains that neem oil is impressive: it really does hurt bad bugs while sparing the good bugs.

Researchers have looked at it and found that neem oil is non toxic for spiders, butterflies and to insects that pollinate plants.

Scientists looked especially at how neem oil affects honey bees, since bees do eat plant matter, the pollen.

That's why reaseachers studied what happens if flowers get sprayed with neem oil.

And what they found is very reassuring. To see any effect the scientists had to use very high concentrations of neem. They used a lot more than you would ever use for pest control.
Only if they constantly hit the flowers with a very concentrated neem oil spray did they see an effect, and only in some small hives (medium sized and larger hives were still unaffected.)

What happens is that the bees carry contaminated pollen back to the hive and feed it to the brood. In the small hives some of the new bees could not emerge from their cells (Schmutterer and Holst, 1987).

Weekly use of a neem oil spray at a normal concentration (0.5% - 2%) will not hurt honey bees at all.

You can also rest assured that while neem hurts aphids, whiteflys and the like, it does not harm ladybugs and other predators that eat the aphids, or the tiny wasps that are parasites on many pests.

In one field trial researchers collected and counted aphids and their parasites and predators from fields. In the neem treated field there was the same amount of predator activity as in the untreated fields, and the aphids carried even higher numbers of parasites!

As I already mentioned above, the reason is that the beneficial insects don't eat the leaves and so never consume enough neem to be affected.
But you still need to be careful when you spray neem oil in your garden.

Any oil spray can smother and suffocate insects, and in that respect neem oil makes no difference between good and bad bugs.

So when you spray neem oil, please do it first thing in the morning or late in the evening, when the good bugs are least active. That way you won't hit any bees or other beneficial insects directly. The neem oil spray will dry before they land on the plants, and only the insects trying to eat your plants will die.



Punanny


RE: Hibiscus schizopetalus and other questions - Andy - 06-23-2016

Kaialoha
Thanks for the info. I based my statement on the bottle of Neem I had. When I use it all on Citrus, I avoid hitting the flowers. Overall, good stuff, though I hate the smell....