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abusing the system for proft - kalakoa - 06-25-2016
http://www.westhawaiitoday.com/news/local-news/chill-out
The Legislature appropriated $100 million to air condition 1,000 classrooms across Hawaii in its last session, with plans to start work Aug. 1. But Rep. LoPresti (D-Oahu) of House District 41 cited unusually high bids across the board in his request for an investigation.
Specific jobs estimated at $20K were bid at $135K, so the $100M project needs to be delayed or scaled back (or both).
So much honesty and integrity ... "for the children".
RE: abusing the system for proft - HereOnThePrimalEdge - 06-25-2016
jobs estimated at $20K were bid at $135K
Somebody didn't get an A in math
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RE: abusing the system for proft - Chunkster - 06-25-2016
The only surprise here is that somebody noteworthy called foul. Hawaii has a very long history of well connected contractors getting away with everything from bid inflation to breathtaking cost overruns without any consequences.
RE: abusing the system for proft - Lee M-S - 06-25-2016
I saw a bit on the news about this; contractors don't make enough on the small jobs, so overbid to make it worth their while.
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RE: abusing the system for proft - alaskyn66 - 06-25-2016
If they don't have the money... perhaps they could cut the AC to all state government buildings...for the Children's sake.
..What would King Kamehameha do..
RE: abusing the system for proft - Tink - 06-25-2016
Set up an HVAC apprenticeship, with the students dividing up into teams for each school. They install and maintain the equipment as part of their apprenticeship with hands on learning. When they graduate, the next set maintains the equipment.
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RE: abusing the system for proft - EightFingers - 06-25-2016
Bet it would violate one of the (PRP, koff, koff) union rules....
RE: abusing the system for proft - dakine - 06-25-2016
jobs estimated at $20K were bid at $135K...
The way I heard it is the $20k was for a generic estimate for the AC itself and that in most cases the actually job turned out to involve a lot more. Infrastructure improvements, electrical and other building upgrades, not included in the initial estimate that were made without consideration of each site's actual needs. It was also reported that the way government bids are now monitored nobody in their right mind would attempt to game the system in that their licenses are on the line if they are caught doing so.
RE: abusing the system for proft - pahoated - 06-26-2016
The small air conditioners you can get to stick in your window are 120V. These will only effectively cool a small room. Larger commercial air conditioners, the size needed to cool a large class room are 220V. Since it never occurred to the Hawaii school system to have air conditioning until now, the school classrooms are probably not wired at all for 220V. Rewiring is massively expensive.
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RE: abusing the system for proft - alaskyn66 - 06-26-2016
Why couldn't they just install ceiling fans .... or am I missing something here..
..What would King Kamehameha do..