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Cesspools are banned? Cost of a septic system? - 7Shadows - 11-30-2016
Aloha everyone! Our Hawaii moving plans are back on the table. Was reading through some posts and found Hawaii has banned the issue of new Cesspool permits. So I guess we will have to put in a septic tank and drain field now.
What is this costing folks out there to install a system? I will still be needing to get my lot ripped and pushed around so I'm hoping I can get the operator to dig a septic tank and drain field hole while hes here.
Can anyone recommend some good installers and possibly what you paid to get it installed.
Much thanks to anyone that can help
RE: Cesspools are banned? Cost of a septic system? - tweez - 11-30-2016
I have been researching this as well as we will be installing septic early next year after we close on our house. From the folks I have talked to who have done this recently, the cost was ~$20K. The name recommended to me from an engineering standpoint (plans, permits, etc.) is Paul Nash with Atlas Engineering. I haven't worked with him yet, but I talked to three different people and they all gave me his name. No info on installers yet. There is also a tax credit available for new septic that is replacing cesspools near the water. Not sure if you would qualify but here is the link: http://health.hawaii.gov/wastewater/home/taxcredit/.
RE: Cesspools are banned? Cost of a septic system? - VancouverIslander - 11-30-2016
I used Atlas for our now outdated cesspool and had Nick Moore from Volcano do the work since we're in Mountain View. Happy with both. 20k sounds like an awful lot for a septic system. I believe it was generally 7-10k back 5 years ago.
Me ka ha`aha`a,
Mike
RE: Cesspools are banned? Cost of a septic system? - kalakoa - 11-30-2016
20k sounds like an awful lot for a septic system
Prices have recently been adjusted to account for the fact that septic is now "mandatory".
RE: Cesspools are banned? Cost of a septic system? - Tink - 11-30-2016
And expect it to go up if the port gets its way in raising shipping costs as much as 55% to fund "improvements", according to the Star Advertiser.
Community begins with Aloha
RE: Cesspools are banned? Cost of a septic system? - 7Shadows - 12-01-2016
Thanks for the information everyone. unfortunately I cannot take advantage of the credit as I'm in Hawaiian Acres. I will be giving Atlas a call later for a quote. I'll post back here with what they tell me.
Thanks again
RE: Cesspools are banned? Cost of a septic system? - kalakoa - 12-01-2016
cannot take advantage of the credit as I'm in Hawaiian Acres
I believe Hawaiian Acres would still qualify as a "source water assessment program area" -- HRS 235-16.5 does not stipulate that the existing cesspool be permitted.
No credits given for starting from scratch, which is unfortunate.
The cesspool ban really should have included a list of type-approved composting toilets, but that's our government for you (all stick, no carrot).
RE: Cesspools are banned? Cost of a septic system? - Obie - 12-01-2016
"The cesspool ban really should have included a list of type-approved composting toilets, but that's our government for you (all stick, no carrot)."
You are still required to have a septic system to treat the gray water.
RE: Cesspools are banned? Cost of a septic system? - Guest - 12-01-2016
Yes, it is very important that a septic tank be engineered.
By a degreed engineer. From an engineering school.
At an engineering payscale.
And a virtual wind tunnel analysis of airflow around the structure, and precise stress moments at every member junction must be calculated.
By a degreed engineer.
At an engineering payscale.
The same for earthquakes; separate studies for P waves and S waves.
Meanwhile, the little fire ants the state let in so someone could sell potted houseplants are eating the wiring and the glue holding together the chipboard that forms the joists in new, permitted construction.
Not to worry. The 'protectors' are 'protecting' us. From...telescopes.
Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha.
And they wonder why people are homeless and living under tarps or in unpermitted shacks.
I love this place. Really. I do.
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You can't fix Samsara.
RE: Cesspools are banned? Cost of a septic system? - kalakoa - 12-01-2016
You are still required to have a septic system to treat the gray water.
More stick...