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Van motel by school doesn't worry gov't - BigKEO - 12-21-2016
http://westhawaiitoday.com/news/local-news/ocean-view-parents-worry-over-abandoned-occupied-vehicle-nearby-busy-bus-stop
What do concerned citizens do when ineffective or incompetent gov't employees don't take this public safety issue seriously?
If I had the resources, I'd tow that jalopy and drop it off on a gov't parking lot.
And if this was in my neighborhood, I'd tell HPD that I saw what looked like weapons and drugs in the car. That *should* get their attention.
RE: Van motel by school doesn't worry gov't - HereOnThePrimalEdge - 12-21-2016
I'd tow that jalopy
Even less work:
#1 Buy a tube of quick drying contractors glue.
Wait until the occupants? residents? leave for the day.
Seal the doors as best you can.
#2 Buy something that stinks.
Inject into the interior by whatever means is necessary.
"One may pretend knowledge of philosophy more successfully than that of arithmetic." -Last Aphorisms (or how about, one may pretend knowledge with an opinion more successfully than with facts)
RE: Van motel by school doesn't worry gov't - BigKEO - 12-21-2016
#3 Accidental fire
RE: Van motel by school doesn't worry gov't - alaskyn66 - 12-21-2016
If it doesn't bother the government enough to deal with it.. tow it to the nearest government office and park it in a 'reserved' spot.
RE: Van motel by school doesn't worry gov't - Tink - 12-21-2016
Everybody needs a place to call "home", regardless of what it "is". However, due to suspicious activities?, and the proximity to a bus stop primarily used by children a proper solution should be achieved. The problem is it sits within a "private" subdivision, making enforcement more difficult (sound familiar?). The HOA is more than likely afraid of legal action if they get involved.
Perhaps direct parental communication with photo proof of conversation kindly, but firmly requesting them to "move along" to a bonafide camping area would work, or if that is unsuccessful, remove the plates, making it clearly an abandoned vehicle to a passing PD, and make a daily call to the local substation to complain about abandoned vehicle and illegal camping. Clog their call log with multiple person complaints until the Chief gets tired of it and tells the Captain to solve it. Trespassing, illegal camping, child endangerment (one child claim "scared" is all that takes) are three offenses I can think of.
Community begins with Aloha
RE: Van motel by school doesn't worry gov't - kalakoa - 12-21-2016
This quote from the article really says it all:
"The roads were never dedicated to county, so they're privately owned. The county doesn't have jurisdiction over the roadways themselves,"
RE: Van motel by school doesn't worry gov't - BigKEO - 12-21-2016
I don't understand how the laws regarding private/public property are selectively applied. Then again, a lot of local laws don't make sense. Public safety concerns, especially potentially involving children should invoke action.
If there was a fire, medical emergency or other life-threatening event on private land, won't gov't respond?
RE: Van motel by school doesn't worry gov't - leilanidude - 12-21-2016
It should be quite easy for the police to identify the legal owner of the vehicle. If it isn't the ones living in it... tow it away.
RE: Van motel by school doesn't worry gov't - HereOnThePrimalEdge - 12-21-2016
#3 Accidental fire
When asking/hoping for the police to become involved in an investigation, help the department keep their focus on the issue at hand, by not distracting them with a crime bigger than the initial case.
Everybody needs a place to call "home", regardless of what it "is".
As any realtor will tell you, location, location, location. If that realtor has a young school age child near that bus stop, they might add a fourth; LOCATION!
RE: Van motel by school doesn't worry gov't - kalakoa - 12-21-2016
how the laws regarding private/public property are selectively applied
Believe the distinction is: any vehicle being operated is subject to the law, but any stationary object on private property is beyond County jurisdiction.
Irony being: building code revisions define any stationary vehicle to be a "building" after 24 hours unless there is de-facto evidence that it is actually "parked" (eg, a food truck with current DoH certification). County would be within their own rules to condemn this "illegal structure".