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that HELCO rate hike - kalakoa - 08-23-2017
http://www.hawaiitribune-herald.com/news/local-news/helco-rate-hike-ok-d
HELCO estimates the move will add $4.98 per month to a typical residential bill and generate $9.9 million in additional revenue.
Anyone know how much a big retailer (Walmart, Home Depot, KTA) pays for power? They'll obviously increase prices to make up the difference; I always wonder just how much the "typical consumer" ends up paying -- whether or not they have HELCO power.
RE: that HELCO rate hike - leilanidude - 08-23-2017
The PUC needs to just say NO to these stupid pet projects that cost more to generate electricity than additional geothermal cost.
RE: that HELCO rate hike - Chunkster - 08-23-2017
But leilanidude, don't you know that geothermal is poisoning people who need their homes bought out . . . despite some of them having bought there knowing about the plant? Oh, the humanity!
RE: that HELCO rate hike - Kapoho Joe - 08-23-2017
The geothermal plant is not making anyone sick. Anybody who says otherwise is a damn liar with zero proof.
RE: that HELCO rate hike - geochem - 08-23-2017
Haven't you guys learned yet that, in our oh so progressive world, lying is much more profitable than telling the truth...
RE: that HELCO rate hike - Kapoho Joe - 08-23-2017
I have learned it, and I don't like it.
RE: that HELCO rate hike - terracore - 08-23-2017
"HELCO says it spent $14 million on tree trimming since 2014"
How much does it cost over the long term to bury a line and never have to trim trees again?
RE: that HELCO rate hike - KeaauRich - 08-23-2017
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Originally posted by terracore
"HELCO says it spent $14 million on tree trimming since 2014"
How much does it cost over the long term to bury a line and never have to trim trees again?
According to Motley Fool, it costs $750/foot to bury power lines vs $70 to install them overhead. And I assume this is based on mainland soil conditions, not our lava-rock ground. So if my math is right (a stretch, I'l admit), their $14 million tree trimming would have translated to about 3.5 miles of buried cable at best.
Link to the story here: https://www.fool.com/investing/general/2014/02/08/why-burying-power-lines-sounds-better-than-it-real.aspx
RE: that HELCO rate hike - leilanidude - 08-24-2017
How much does it cost over the long term to bury a line and never have to trim trees again?
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They do it all over the Kona and Waikoloa areas.
RE: that HELCO rate hike - terracore - 08-24-2017
Sounds like the economics of burying the lines will never work out with Puna's current density. Hopefully new battery technology reportedly "in the pipeline" will make grid electricity obsolete before the payoff costs for burying power lines would ever come to fruition.