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Ancient Hawaiian brush fire - kalakoa - 09-27-2017
http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/36470349/dlnr-kauai-wildfire-likely-caused-by-hawaiian-fire-throwing-ritual
A wildland fire that closed large portions of Kauai's North Shore on Tuesday is believed to have been accidentally ignited during an Ancient Hawaiian fire-throwing ceremony, according to a state land department spokesperson.
Why does it seem more like "desecration" instead?
As for whether the father and son could face a fine or penalty, DLNR communications manager Dan Dennison said the state hasn't determined that the activity occurred on State-DLNR land.
"If it didn't, we'd have no enforcement authority," he said.
Hmm. Sounds familiar.
RE: Ancient Hawaiian brush fire - HereOnThePrimalEdge - 09-28-2017
accidentally ignited during an Ancient Hawaiian fire-throwing ceremony
From the link:
Ancient Hawaiians held the ceremony to mark great occasions and special ceremonies.
"This is something they mentally, physically have to prepare themselves for," McCarthy said.
Unfortunately, when the link between authentic Hawaiian culture and practice isn't directly handed down from generation to generation, a little knowledge might as they say, be a dangerous thing. This can be equally true for "The Protectors" who claim to be religious practitioners on Mauna Kea. There are no doubt authentic practitioners on the mountain, but those who invent their own weekend warrior style ceremony and belief system endanger not only themselves, but those who follow an authentic practice as a lifelong and integral part of their daily life.
"The Protectors" may not burn down the summit of Mauna Kea with their newly found religious beliefs, but their false statements certainly are capable of setting many a pants on fire. Figuratively if not literally.
The Donner Party really wasn't that great of a party, was it?
RE: Ancient Hawaiian brush fire - Eric1600 - 09-28-2017
My understanding is only royalty preformed this and I'm sure there were plenty of people around to put out the stray embers that blew back on land.
https://balihai.com/Blog/kauai-north-shore-the-spectacular-fire-throwing-ceremony/
https://mauicanoeclub.wordpress.com/2012/12/31/oahi-ancient-hawaiian-fireworks/
I had to read that quote again until it sunk in
As for whether the father and son could face a fine or penalty, DLNR communications manager Dan Dennison said the state hasn't determined that the activity occurred on State-DLNR land.
"If it didn't, we'd have no enforcement authority," he said.
So if I set a fire on private land and it moves to burn down public land or other private homes, then no one can do anything about it? Or is he just saying some other state agency would handle it?