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Once again, American soldiers win the hearts... - Beachboy - 03-04-2008
....& minds of the community![:o)] This kinda stuff just sickens me beyond words. How the hell is this suppose to help the image of our men in uniforms abroad?
Just one more piece of evidence that our kids need to come home. The military is spread way to thin these days, but that is truly no excuse for animal abuse!
I once saw a dog hog tied to the roof of a car on Oahu, and the owner was driving around Kalihi with that poor animal on top scared for it's life. What makes humans wanna abuse poor animals?
http://starbulletin.com/2008/03/04/news/story03.html
Oh, just to save you the time. The video has been removed from youtube!
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."
- Albert Einstein
RE: Once again, American soldiers win the hearts... - Guest - 03-04-2008
Well it still can be seen here [V]
And the soldier in question can be seen here
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Today in History:
Kahana Itozaki catches the Hawai'i state record Commerson's Frogfish, 12 lbs, off Ka'u on the Big Island, 1999.
RE: Once again, American soldiers win the hearts... - mgeary - 03-04-2008
It may well be that the Marine or Marines in question committed some kind of unspeakable act of animal cruelty on video. If that's the case, after a thorough investigation, then he or they should be punished appropriately (I think animal cruelty is a felony in most states).
It's also possible that they "hoaxed" the Internet (and you, Beachboy, if you believe it's real) by staging the scene, cutting away, changing the "object" being thrown to something other than a live puppy, then cutting back to the throwing act. Photoshop and other video editing tools are pretty powerful nowadays.
There are lots of people who are convinced of aliens, Bigfoot, ghosts, and other fictions, based on video "evidence".
Before we jump to conclusions one way or another, shouldn't we allow the investigation to proceed? Are Marines not eligible for the presumption of innocence that applies to all other U.S. citizens? Or do we presume that these Marines are guilty somehow because they are Marines?
Aloha! ;-)
RE: Once again, American soldiers win the hearts... - Beachboy - 03-05-2008
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Before we jump to conclusions one way or another, shouldn't we allow the investigation to proceed? Are Marines not eligible for the presumption of innocence that applies to all other U.S. citizens? Or do we presume that these Marines are guilty somehow because they are Marines?
Aloha! ;-)
yes, you are right. But they are the only group of US citizens referred to as "jarheads", for acts just like this!
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."
- Albert Einstein
RE: Once again, American soldiers win the hearts... - loffelkopffl - 03-05-2008
it's amazing bush can kill hundreds of thousands for oil yet show a marine killing a dog and the u.s. is outraged, (by the way i'm against animal cruelty also)
RE: Once again, American soldiers win the hearts... - Greg - 03-05-2008
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"yes, you are right. But they are the only group of US citizens referred to as "jarheads", for acts just like this!"
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Do you think this behavior is typical of all Marines?
Trolling again ?
RE: Once again, American soldiers win the hearts... - jdirgo - 03-05-2008
I know I don't. What's sad is that one a**hole makes the whole bunch of honorable, respectable and admirable soldiers look like jerks. Unfortunately, its all too common of a reaction -- and right now, its hitting the military with a few bad apples making the whole bunch look bad.
Remember when "going postal" had meaning? And it was something like 3 or 4 postal workers (out of a million or so nationwide), yet the whole group got painted with same brush.
Find out if this truly happened, find the jerk (regardless of occupation) and prosecute fully.
John Dirgo, R, ABR, e-PRO
Aloha Coast Realty, LLC
808-987-9243 cell
http://www.alohacoastrealty.com
RE: Once again, American soldiers win the hearts... - Guest - 03-05-2008
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Originally posted by jdirgo
What's sad is that one Bush makes the whole bunch of honorable, respectable and admirable soldiers look like jerks. Unfortunately, its all too common of a reaction -- and right now, its hitting the military with a few bad apples making the whole bunch look bad.
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Find out if this truly happened, find the jerk (regardless of occupation) and prosecute fully.
I had to take a jab [}
][B)]Snopes is classifying this as "Undetermined" at this time.
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Today in History
Captain Vancouver arrives in Kealakekua Bay, Hawai'i, 1792.
RE: Once again, American soldiers win the hearts... - gtill - 03-05-2008
Why didn't this opinion arise against Pro
Football in the case of Mr Vick (or is dog fightng fair and square?)
Fortunately most of the troops who hear this type of tirade against them are sufficiently wise that they can laugh at it and consider the source of derision! But you don't forget it!
Jarhead is a reference to their haircuts!
RE: Once again, American soldiers win the hearts... - jdirgo - 03-05-2008
Sheesh, you expect people to react the same toward vastly overpaid bone-crushers as they do toward underpaid, under-respected people who may be faced with giving their lives to save us every day?
You ask for a lot. [
]I will offer no opinions on the current war (or any war for that matter) but I believe that those who serve in the military and do so with little fanfare or benefits (as unjust as that lack of benefits is) deserve better than to be lumped into the same category as sadists.
John Dirgo, R, ABR, e-PRO
Aloha Coast Realty, LLC
808-987-9243 cell
http://www.alohacoastrealty.com