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East Island disappears after hurricane Walaka , - dan d - 10-23-2018
https://www.civilbeat.org/2018/10/this-remote-hawaiian-island-just-vanished/
East island in french frigate shoals underwater after hurricane
Walaka.
Not lookin good for the NWHI as many of them are not very high.
I was on midway island and the tallest thing there was the controll tower at 34 feet. The scientist's are saying if the Ross ice shelf goes we will have a 10 ft sea rise within 1 decade.
HPP
RE: East Island disappears after hurricane Walaka , - MarkD - 10-23-2018
I think it's a century for any big rise--4 to 6 feet. But a very problematic rise within 20-25 years.
RE: East Island disappears after hurricane Walaka , - Carey - 10-23-2018
Stark reality for the marine species on East Island:
96% of the Hawaiian Green turtles nest
one seventh of all of the Hawaiian monk seals were born on this little island...
RE: East Island disappears after hurricane Walaka , - Guest - 10-23-2018
quote:I strongly suspect they will be fine, finding another place to use.
Originally posted by Carey
Stark reality for the marine species on East Island:
96% of the Hawaiian Green turtles nest
one seventh of all of the Hawaiian monk seals were born on this little island...
Speaking Truth to Lies / Facts to Ignorance
RE: East Island disappears after hurricane Walaka , - HereOnThePrimalEdge - 10-23-2018
I strongly suspect they will be fine
Yes, let’s all send our thoughts and prayers directing the green turtles and monks seals toward another place they can live, maybe somewhere on the remnants of a shipwreck wedged over a rocky shoal or if they’re real lucky a remote atoll slightly above sea level in the Northwestern Islands.
I think it’s already working.
RE: East Island disappears after hurricane Walaka , - MarkP - 10-23-2018
This is extremely concerning but would have been so even without climate change. A bad storm would always have put that island at risk. Where did sea turtles and monk seals breed historically?
RE: East Island disappears after hurricane Walaka , - dan d - 10-24-2018
Hey Mark,the french friggate shoals propper ,is the historic breeding grounds of many species. If u look on that map ,it shows many small attols.On Midway islands, both midway and eastern island had local breeding populations when i was there in 73`. Eastern had a huge population of frigate birds, so many sooty terns that there nests went all the way to the waters edge.And about 30 thousand huge laysan albatross. Both white and black.
If u google the deep dives done recently by bathyspheres in that area u will see a video of a tagged monk seal in 3k feet of water feeding . They think that there is no competition for food at that depth. The researchers tracked that seal 10 miles from its home attol. And had no idea it would swim that deep. The young seals are the ones most at risk. Of starving and tiger sharks. Lots of predation. I could bore you with 13 hours of uw pics i took there.
Aloha
HPP
RE: East Island disappears after hurricane Walaka , - Guest - 10-24-2018
[quote]Originally posted by HereOnThePrimalEdge
I strongly suspect they will be fine
Yes, let’s all send our thoughts and prayers directing the green turtles and monks seals toward another place they can live, maybe somewhere on the remnants of a shipwreck wedged over a rocky shoal or if they’re real lucky a remote atoll slightly above sea level in the Northwestern Islands.
I think it’s already !!!!!They will be fine on their next home island.
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RE: East Island disappears after hurricane Walaka , - HereOnThePrimalEdge - 10-24-2018
Open-d said: too stupid to find another island!!!!!
Guess the seals and turtles weren’t smart enough to buy land, because as Will Rodgers said, they ain’t making any more. And although more land was made recently, (Big Island gettin' bigger every day), it's a several thousand mile swim from East Island, and probably still hot in places.
RE: East Island disappears after hurricane Walaka , - tada - 10-24-2018
Everything so politicized these days. I believe this doc from 1953 before politicization-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ql52n9Rvzdo&app=desktop&persist_app=1