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The Old Hilo Jailhouse - HereOnThePrimalEdge - 01-11-2019
The old Hilo jailhouse, built in 1896 will be demolished. It was last used in the early 2000's. Quote from the article:
* "There’s no historic value to the property."
* Heartwood Pacific LLC, a Keaau-based contractor, was awarded the contract to demolish the old jailhouse in December 2017 after submitting a sealed bid of $853,230.
I agree, it's probably difficult to retrofit a 120 year old brick building, but really? They're going to claim there's no historic value? How many 120 year old buildings are there in Hilo?
Also, $853,230 to tear it down? Are contractors going to break it apart one brick at a time? And nice touch, bidding $853,230. Not $850,000, because you know, it's better if it looks like somebody sat down at a large manila file covered desk and calculated the exact costs.
At that price, it looks to me like the this time the robbers are outside the jailhouse, not inside. A fitting end to the structure.
https://www.hawaiitribune-herald.com/2019/01/11/hawaii-news/officials-share-memories-of-old-hilo-jailhouse/
RE: The Old Hilo Jailhouse - kalakoa - 01-11-2019
Also, $853,230 to tear it down?
There's a huge missed opportunity here, and I'm really surprised nobody's going for it:
Claim "historical status" for the structure and turn it into a museum.
Presto: retrofitting funds, maintenance funds, staffing, cash-only admission that can be subjected to "poor handling" just like the Hele-On fares, etc.
Are contractors going to break it apart one brick at a time?
If they do, will the bricks be made available (for a price) so people can build something with them? It's the least they could do.
RE: The Old Hilo Jailhouse - Obie - 01-11-2019
I would imagine a large part of the cost is asbestos remediation.Is there even a landfill in Hawaii that can take that kind of stuff ?
RE: The Old Hilo Jailhouse - alaskyn66 - 01-11-2019
Not to mention lead based paint. Easiest way to dispose of such is to Barge it out of here and have a "accident" resulting in the barge "accidentally" sinking enroute.
RE: The Old Hilo Jailhouse - Mimosa - 01-11-2019
Asbestos - watering so no dust .
Lead based paint - the land fill will not take these toxins - all must be barged to calif for special treatment and burial .
Perhaps a new facility can replace this older than dirt antiquated structure with more spaces for the law breaking Neanderthals amongst us .build 4 stories under ground and 3 stories above ground and before it is even built - it is over crowded .
We say - buy an old air craft carrier and retro fit it for an off shore prison of 5000 plus cells .
The Navy has them in mothball row in Bremerton
Wa for cool million each.
Yes time to demolish our hilo Alcatraz .
Mrs Mimosa
RE: The Old Hilo Jailhouse - kalakoa - 01-11-2019
buy an old air craft carrier and retro fit it for an off shore prison of 5000 plus cells
Not a bad idea, but ankle bracelets for nonviolent offenders would be cheaper.