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To serve and protect? - birdmove - 06-05-2019
https://www.westhawaiitoday.com/2019/06/05/hawaii-news/state-wants-case-involving-cop-closed-off/
Jon in Keaau/HPP
RE: To serve and protect? - kalakoa - 06-05-2019
Correct: they "serve and protect" their own, and their pensions.
RE: To serve and protect? - jrw - 06-05-2019
If it was average person they would be named. This county bring people in all the time and tell their name and then lets them go without pressing charges .
jrw
RE: To serve and protect? - kander - 06-05-2019
They have NO obligation to "serve and protect" They are not there for your benefit or safety. The quicker you figure that out the safer you will be.
https://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/28/politics/justices-rule-police-do-not-have-a-constitutional-duty-to-protect.html
RE: To serve and protect? - alaskyn66 - 06-05-2019
HPD mission statement.
Mission Statement
The employees of the Hawaii Police Department are committed to preserving the Spirit of Aloha. We will work cooperatively with the community to enforce the laws, preserve peace, and provide a safe environment.
Vision Statement
The Hawaii Police Department is committed to providing the highest quality of police service and forming partnerships with the community to achieve public satisfaction making the Big Island a safe place to live, visit, and conduct business.
Core Values
Integrity
Professionalism
Compassion
Teamwork
Community Satisfaction
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Doesn't really mean serve and protect..
RE: To serve and protect? - bystander - 06-05-2019
quote:
Originally posted by kander
They have NO obligation to "serve and protect" They are not there for your benefit or safety. The quicker you figure that out the safer you will be.
https://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/28/politics/justices-rule-police-do-not-have-a-constitutional-duty-to-protect.html
The arrest of Deputy Scot Peterson for dereliction of duty seems to directly contradict this. Did he have an obligation to protect the students even if it meant putting his own life at risk?
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/scot-peterson-florida-deputy-charged-parkland-marjory-stoneman-douglas-high-school-shooting-2019-06-05/
RE: To serve and protect? - My 2 cents - 06-05-2019
Law Enforcement Code of Ethics
AS A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER, my fundamental duty is to serve mankind; to safeguard lives and property; to protect the innocent against deception, the weak against oppression or intimidation, and the peaceful against violence or disorder; and to respect the Constitutional rights of all men to liberty, equality and justice....
https://www.hawaiipolice.com/about-us/law-enforcement-code-of-ethics
RE: To serve and protect? - kander - 06-05-2019
The charges against Scot are a result of public outrage. at the end of the day the charges will be dropped because SCOTUS has already ruled. A peace officer can at their obligation follow a code of conduct.
The primary function of any peace officer as an employee of the state (or govt entity) is to issue citations and generate revenue. They are trained to look at every citizen as a potential criminal in said process of generating revenue.
Before 2005 I would have agreed with any of you that "the boys in blue" are there for you, but that is no longer the case. When the SHTF, dont expect the police to protect you and yours. they are under no obligation legally to do so.
RE: To serve and protect? - bystander - 06-05-2019
I guess cowardice by LEOs is not a crime.
RE: To serve and protect? - MarkD - 06-05-2019
Not often a person is accused of cowardice as bad as this guy is. Snuck away from a shooting in progress he was supposed to respond to. Even if he escapes judgment, he's a pariah.