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SAVE OUR BEACH! - Sam Son - 01-04-2021
So now the Department of Land and Natural Resources thugs want to cut off public access to the new, Goddess-built beach at Isaac Hale Park?
Just because some Honolulu hodads haven't figured out that lava flows cause regional subsidence, plans are now underway to futilely dredge the former Pohoiki Boat Ramp. Those of us who actually launched boats there remember how frequently large storms would wash rocks onto the road and the park would be closed until a County crew could come clean it up. Berms eight-foot tall made out of storm debris had been bulldozed along the makai side of the launching area.
But heck, rocks are heavy. And entire lava flows weigh so much the earth's crust gets scrunched down. Now high tides cover the catwalk boats used to tie up to. If a channel were to be opened every four-foot wave will flood the parking lot, the first overhead south swell will wash the Hale Lua Trust house right off its foundation, and the only new black sand beach we're allowed to visit will become as legally inaccessible as the spectacular ones at Kapoho.
And the ocean specialists at Limtiaco Consulting have been hired by the DLNR to ram this through without even a Environmental Assessment? If those kooks try to blindly bulldoze the last home break in Puna into oblivion, they're going to run into an epic backwash. The Pohoiki dawn patrol will build a barricade out of longboards and empty beer kegs to block off the road. Homies will defend their right to surf with potato cannons and water-balloon slings. A veritable city of driftwood cabanas with palm frond roofs will be occupied on the sand. Rolly-polly DLNR officers brandishing citation I-Pads will be chased off at skegpoint buy octogenarian Protectors. There will be bonfires on the beach every night where effigies of prominent Oahu bureaucrats and consultants will be burned. The two luxury lifeguard stands will be repurposed into a surf school and ding repair shop. Dick Dale and the Deltones will blast on repeat over our 8-track tape decks throughout the night. Celebrities and impressionable grommets will tattoo our slogan -- SURFERS AGAINST STUPIDITY -- across their chests in Old English caps. A documentary, titled The Endless Sit-In, will be produced by an award-winning cinematographer. Kelly Slater and Jack Johnson will Like us on Facebook. Jan & Dean will reunite for a benefit concert. And on moonless midnights the no-longer-fabled Night Marchers will make a Congo line through our cap while we beat our bongos to the rhythm of their ancient sharkskin drums.
And once ho`oponopono finally occurs, what will we learn? That the State environmental review process really does work when you let it.
Cowabunga, Dudes!
RE: SAVE OUR BEACH! - HereOnThePrimalEdge - 01-04-2021
If dredging Pohoiki boat ramp for fishing access was decided by a battle of the bands, surf music vs fisherman's music, I think the Beach Boys and Jan & Dean have got any fishing bands beat, hands down. If there are any fish bands out there rockin' the tuna and trout.
Then there's this:
The state Department of Land and Natural Resources will attempt to expedite the reopening of Pohoiki boat ramp later this month, but the landlocked structure likely will remain unusable until at least the fall.
Because of the financial strain on the fishing industry, Kierkiewicz said the DLNR’s Division of Boating and Ocean Recreation recognized that reopening the ramp must be expedited. To this end, she said, the state found legal provisions that may exempt a dredging project from the need for a time-consuming environmental review, as it would use only existing assets that already passed an environmental review.
https://www.hawaiitribune-herald.com/2021/01/04/hawaii-news/pohoiki-boat-ramp-unlikely-to-reopen-until-fall/
I'll repeat the part I placed in bold above: the state found legal provisions that may exempt a dredging project from the need for a time-consuming environmental review
Oh really? An exemption? Which expedites a time consuming environmental review? Tell me more about who can apply for this "found legal provision."
RE: SAVE OUR BEACH! - leilanidude - 01-04-2021
It is going to be called "a repair" of an existing structure so it would not need a new environmental review.
RE: SAVE OUR BEACH! - kalakoa - 01-04-2021
Economic reality: there will barely be enough to pay for studies, listening sessions, etc. Nothing will be built this decade. Best bet for the fishermen is to negotiate some kind of subsidy in the meantime.
RE: SAVE OUR BEACH! - HereOnThePrimalEdge - 01-04-2021
It is going to be called "a repair"
The state can call it what they will. However, the entire coastline, onshore, offshore, and the ocean current has changed. Describing the dredging operation as a repair ignores the tremendous environmental impact in the area by the 2018 lava flow. So instead in this case the state says, let’s not waste time on an environmental impact statement. It might inconveniently acknowledge those changes, potentially showing Pohoiki may no longer be suitable for a boat ramp.
In this case, damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead.
RE: SAVE OUR BEACH! - randomq - 01-04-2021
Did Pele perform an environmental review before changing the coastline? By the time we finish a study it will cost more than the dredging and the next flow will be on the way.
RE: SAVE OUR BEACH! - HereOnThePrimalEdge - 01-05-2021
Did Pele perform an environmental review
If we now include independent experts in the discussion, and the OP mentioned music earlier, I believe it’s also fair to ask a specialist with several songs to his name concerning ocean life. WWRS? What would Ringo say?
In An Octopus’s Garden he noted, and I believe he refers to fish swimming carefree without fishing boats harassing them:
We would sing
And dance around
Because we know
We can't be found
Then in Yellow Submarine, he makes no mention of fishing from the vessel (presumably when surfaced) throughout the entire length of the two minute and 38 second song, only his harmonious interaction with the environment:
So we sailed up to the sun
'Til we found a sea of green
And we lived beneath the waves
In our yellow submarine
RE: SAVE OUR BEACH! - kalianna - 01-05-2021
Sam Son, you discredit your argument by freewheeling use of disparaging comments, ie "thugs, hodads, kooks". You can make your point while still being civil. Aloha.
RE: SAVE OUR BEACH! - DoryGray - 01-06-2021
Can't they put the put the boat ramp somewhere else on Puna Coastline? Maybe by the lighthouse?
RE: SAVE OUR BEACH! - Ccat - 01-06-2021
(01-06-2021, 02:06 AM)DoryGray Wrote: Can't they put the put the boat ramp somewhere else on Puna Coastline? Maybe by the lighthouse?Any “boat ramp” will be used to swim off of. Pohoiki has the nicest warm spring to swim in. I think we need a new Ahalanui NOW! Why not combine the two?