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AlohaSafe Alert COVID Tracker - HereOnThePrimalEdge - 01-07-2021
The State of Hawaii has released an anonymous COVID tracking/notification app for your phone:
- For an exposure notification to be triggered, devices you were in proximity to in the past 14 days must meet a minimum threshold of exposure, which is a distance of 6 feet or less for a minimum of 15 minutes. The 15 minute threshold is cumulative, so a notification will be sent if you were in close contact with one or more positive individuals for a total of at least 15 minutes.
https://www.alohasafealert.org
RE: AlohaSafe Alert COVID Tracker - kalakoa - 01-07-2021
Nothing that happens in/on/around a smartphone is "anonymous".
RE: AlohaSafe Alert COVID Tracker - HereOnThePrimalEdge - 01-08-2021
"anonymous".
But it is voluntary.
RE: AlohaSafe Alert COVID Tracker - kalakoa - 01-08-2021
But it is voluntary.
More accurate to say that it shares a little bit of information with you instead of silently collecting, packaging, and selling information about you. There's already enough data to perform most contact tracing without an app, but "they" would have to tip their hand, and it's better the public remain ignorant.
Besides, contact tracing is obsolete now that we have a vaccine, right?
RE: AlohaSafe Alert COVID Tracker - blizzardwizard - 01-08-2021
I think It would depend on whether the data is meaningfully anonymized.
It would be hard to know for sure if it wasn't without knowing more, but if it really is anonymized before it gets sent back they would just know that user A and user B had been at the same place at the same time last week and user B got the virus and they were together at the same time same place so they just send a notice to user A warning them about the contact with user B. The way I look at it though, is how anonymous can you really be when you sleep at the same place every night with GPS tracking.
RE: AlohaSafe Alert COVID Tracker - HereOnThePrimalEdge - 01-08-2021
how anonymous can you really be when you sleep at the same place every night with GPS tracking.
Turn off your Bluetooth & power down your phone at night?
RE: AlohaSafe Alert COVID Tracker - terracore - 01-08-2021
I'm only posting this because I happened to read it right before stumbling onto this thread so I guess its relevant:
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/singapore-police-force-can-obtain-tracetogether-data-covid-19-13889914
Anybody who is worried about "big brother" finding them probably wouldn't be online reading this anyway.
RE: AlohaSafe Alert COVID Tracker - eightfingers2.0 - 01-08-2021
(01-08-2021, 03:50 AM)terracore Wrote: I'm only posting this because I happened to read it right before stumbling onto this thread so I guess its relevant:
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/singapore-police-force-can-obtain-tracetogether-data-covid-19-13889914
Anybody who is worried about "big brother" finding them probably wouldn't be online reading this anyway.
They also do the caning in Singapore.
RE: AlohaSafe Alert COVID Tracker - blizzardwizard - 01-08-2021
(01-08-2021, 03:46 AM)HereOnThePrimalEdge Wrote: how anonymous can you really be when you sleep at the same place every night with GPS tracking.
Turn off your Bluetooth & power down your phone at night?
Turns out it doesn't use gps at all, just bluetooth
RE: AlohaSafe Alert COVID Tracker - kalakoa - 01-08-2021
Bluetooth is a de-facto unique device ID. Buy the location data from a broker afterwards.
It's nearly impossible to avoid the surveillance anymore.