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Climate Change & The Hawaiian Kingdom - HereOnThePrimalEdge - 10-22-2021
A study has been released suggesting climate change will create political instability around the world. The entire article is worth reading, but this caught my attention:
small states in the Pacific are also at risk.
Larger, richer countries will better be able to cope with the consequences of rising seas and hotter weather. How would a Hawaiian Kingdom fare versus Hawaii as a state in the US? I would think not so well. Something to consider, or mention the next time someone wants to discuss complete island wide sovereignty.
The US intelligence community identifies 11 countries and two regions where energy, food, water and health security are at particular risk. They tend to be poorer and less able to adapt, increasing the risks of instability and internal conflict. Heat waves and droughts could place pressure on services like electricity supply.
https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-59004088
RE: Climate Change & The Hawaiian Kingdom - kalakoa - 10-22-2021
How would a Hawaiian Kingdom fare
They would march right up to climate change and demand that it stop desecrating their islands, possibly followed by lawsuits and some kind of encampment.
RE: Climate Change & The Hawaiian Kingdom - AaronM - 10-22-2021
The future of a Hawaiian Kingdom would depend on which country would annex it.
RE: Climate Change & The Hawaiian Kingdom - eightfingers2.0 - 10-22-2021
That would be China.
RE: Climate Change & The Hawaiian Kingdom - tada - 10-22-2021
Japan almost did it but China's better. That's where all our stuff comes from.
RE: Climate Change & The Hawaiian Kingdom - AaronM - 10-22-2021
Finally get rid of the Jones Act
RE: Climate Change & The Hawaiian Kingdom - HereOnThePrimalEdge - 10-22-2021
Advocates of a separate Hawaiian Kingdom, or the competing Kingdom of Hawaii mostly view the political transition of Hawaii to an independent country, not one "subjugated" or "colonized" by the US, China, Japan, etc. How would a small independent country in the middle of the Pacific fare when faced with rising tides, crops affected by excess heat, hurricanes, flooding, etc? For instance, if a Category 5 hurricane were to make a direct hit on the Honolulu area, how would a Kingdom of Hawaii FEMA agency respond as compared with recovery efforts by the US FEMA? Would the Honolulu skyline be dotted with uninhabitable high rises, windows smashed or blown out? Would roads be blocked for months while Kingdom Krews hauled away downed trees and, figured out what to do with power lines, phone, internet wires? "Which one is this?" Who of the dedicated anti-TMT blockaders would spend months crawling through clogged storm sewers, hauling out debris so the roads wouldn't flood every rainstorm?
Follow up question:
Have any of these possibilities been considered by Kingdom advocates?
RE: Climate Change & The Hawaiian Kingdom - malahini - 10-23-2021
(10-22-2021, 09:06 PM)HereOnThePrimalEdge Wrote: Advocates of a separate Hawaiian Kingdom, or the competing Kingdom of Hawaii mostly view the political transition of Hawaii to an independent country, not one "subjugated" or "colonized" by the US, China, Japan, etc. How would a small independent country in the middle of the Pacific fare when faced with rising tides, crops affected by excess heat, hurricanes, flooding, etc? For instance, if a Category 5 hurricane were to make a direct hit on the Honolulu area, how would a Kingdom of Hawaii FEMA agency respond as compared with recovery efforts by the US FEMA? Would the Honolulu skyline be dotted with uninhabitable high rises, windows smashed or blown out? Would roads be blocked for months while Kingdom Krews hauled away downed trees and, figured out what to do with power lines, phone, internet wires? "Which one is this?" Who of the dedicated anti-TMT blockaders would spend months crawling through clogged storm sewers, hauling out debris so the roads wouldn't flood every rainstorm?
Follow up question:
Have any of these possibilities been considered by Kingdom advocates?
I must say, these are really good points.
RE: Climate Change & The Hawaiian Kingdom - eightfingers2.0 - 10-23-2021
Protesters want to be and really try hard to be relevant, but they aren’t in most cases.
RE: Climate Change & The Hawaiian Kingdom - tada - 10-23-2021
Why didn't the Kingdom embargo invasive palm trees.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/florida-is-ditching-palm-trees-to-fight-the-climate-crisis/ar-AAPR5Um?ocid=uxbndlbing