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DEEP WATER WELL IN THE MK AQUIFER??? - AaronM - 04-13-2023
Some joker wants to put a deep water well into the MK aquifer for the purpose of extracting and bottling water for commercial sale, ala FIJI water.
I cannot wait for the first public comment meeting!
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From: webmaster@hawaii.gov
To: DBEDT OPSD Environmental Review Program
Subject: New online submission for The Environmental Notice
Date: Friday, March 31, 2023 10:47:02 AM
Action Name
Hawaiian Kingdom Brands Kanaka Beverage Plant and Café
Type of Document/Determination
Draft environmental assessment and anticipated finding of no significant impact (DEA-AFNSI)
HRS §343-5(a) Trigger(s)
(1) Propose the use of state or county lands or the use of state or county funds
Judicial district
South Hilo, Hawaiʻi
Tax Map Key(s) (TMK(s))
(3) 2-2-033:011
Action type
Applicant
Other required permits and approvals
Special Management Area Use Permit; Plan Approval; Grading and Grubbing Permit; Building Permit;
Sewer Extension Application; NPDES Permit; SWPPP Permit; CWRM Well Permit; DOH Drinking Water
Permit; Time Extension Request
Discretionary consent required
Extension of County Sewer line and County Road (within County Right of Way)
Approving agency
County of Hawaii Planning Department
Agency contact name
Alex Roy
Agency contact email (for info about the action)
alex.roy@hawaiicounty.gov
Email address or URL for receiving comments
planning@hawaiicounty.gov
Agency contact phone
(808) 961-8288
Agency address
COUNTY OF HAWAI'I PLANNING DEPARTMENT
101 PAUAHI STREET, SUITE 3
Hilo, HI 96720
United States
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Applicant
Hawaiian Kingdom Brands LLC
Applicant contact name
John Pipan
Applicant contact email
info@landplanninghawaii.com
Applicant contact phone
(808) 333-3393
Applicant address
347 Andrews Ave.
Hilo, HI 96720
United States
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Was this submittal prepared by a consultant?
Yes
Consultant
Land Planning Hawaiii LLC
Consultant contact name
John Pipan
Consultant contact email
info@landplanninghawaii.com
Consultant contact phone
(808) 333-3393
Consultant address
194 Wiwoole St.
Hilo, HI 96720
United States
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Action summary
Hawaiian Kingdom Brands (HKB) is proposing to construct a beverage bottling plant and café on the
subject parcel. HKB intends to produce bottled water and coffee products for resale in local and non-local
markets and construct a café with a drive through for sit-down and takeaway customers. Preliminary
plans include a 30,000 square foot warehouse/manufacturing plant for bottling beverages, a new 1,000-
foot-deep potable water well, and a 1,360 square foot café with a drive through. A community kitchen is
also proposed for public use. On-site infrastructure is expected in the form of driveways, parking,
electrical, water supply, storm water management, and wastewater disposal. County water will be used
for onsite potable uses and the new potable water well is proposed to serve the bottling plant for water
and coffee products.
Reasons supporting determination
For information on the agency's reasons for supporting the DEA-AFONSI determination, please refer to:
Draft Environmental Assessment
PART 4: DETERMINATION, FINDINGS, AND REASONS
Section 4.2 Findings and Supporting Reasons
Attached documents (signed agency letter & EA/EIS)
2023-03-30-Letter-to-Mary-Alice-Evans-OPSD1.pdf
HKB_DEA_2023.pdf
Action location map
HKB_Map.zip
Authorized individual
Alex Roy
Authorization
The above named authorized individual hereby certifies that he/she has the authority to make this
submission.
RE: DEEP WATER WELL IN THE MK AQUIFER??? - knieft - 04-13-2023
Maybe it's "MK "protector" Jason Momoa?
https://www.mananalu.com
Cheers,
Kirt
RE: DEEP WATER WELL IN THE MK AQUIFER??? - HereOnThePrimalEdge - 04-13-2023
I don't understand.
Haven't the observatories been polluting the aquifer for the last 50 years?
And yet the Hawaiian Kingdom Brands Kanaka Beverage Plant and Café want to bottle and brew the water into more Kool-Aid for people to drink?
RE: DEEP WATER WELL IN THE MK AQUIFER??? - kalakoa - 04-13-2023
This is a rerun. They already failed once, using a different name.
RE: DEEP WATER WELL IN THE MK AQUIFER??? - RoGo - 04-14-2023
The property is located across the street from the Afook Chinen Civic Auditorium and bordering Wailoa State Park. They did some grubbing a couple of months ago and more recently there has been activity directly across the street from the Civic.
RE: DEEP WATER WELL IN THE MK AQUIFER??? - leilanidude - 04-14-2023
Other than the issue of plastic bottles, which I personally hate, there shouldn't be any reason for people to complain about it. This aquifer holds more water than man could ever extract and once you realize that every inch of rainfall puts about 27,000 gallons per acre, back into the ground which eventually works its way back to the aquifer.
RE: DEEP WATER WELL IN THE MK AQUIFER??? - terracore - 04-14-2023
They could use aluminum cans. There is a plant on Oahu that makes them from recycled aluminum. I believe that is where Maui Brewing gets their cans from. Unlike plastic and glass, almost every aluminum container in this country is recycled.
RE: DEEP WATER WELL IN THE MK AQUIFER??? - AaronM - 04-15-2023
(04-14-2023, 04:23 PM)leilanidude Wrote: Other than the issue of plastic bottles, which I personally hate, there shouldn't be any reason for people to complain about it. This aquifer holds more water than man could ever extract and once you realize that every inch of rainfall puts about 27,000 gallons per acre, back into the ground which eventually works its way back to the aquifer.
I like your optimism but... A) I'd like to hear a hydrogeologist agree with you that this wouldn't be a big deal. B) Why risk it?
RE: DEEP WATER WELL IN THE MK AQUIFER??? - MyManao - 04-15-2023
(04-15-2023, 03:53 AM)AaronM Wrote: I'd like to hear a hydrogeologist agree with you that this wouldn't be a big deal..
'Tis a shame geochem doesn't chime in here anymore.. but hey. We, the Island of Hawaii, has more fresh water than we could ever use, a massive amount that is virtually untapped underground, and amazingly stored off shore at depth. You might enjoy reading this paper he's a coauthor on that was published in the March 2021 edition of EOS..
From.. https://eos.org/science-updates/deep-submarine-fresh-water-a-new-resource-for-volcanic-islands
Deep Submarine Fresh Water: A New Resource for Volcanic Islands?
Which in part reads..
Here we describe how we discovered a vast submarine freshwater reservoir, which contains enough water to fill about 1.9 million Olympic-sized swimming pools, off the coast of the island of Hawaii…
And, by the telling it’s easy to imagine there’s much more still to be discovered..
RE: DEEP WATER WELL IN THE MK AQUIFER??? - AaronM - 04-16-2023
Following your logic - we think we have lots so let's allow the free market do with it what they will?
Selling public water benefits whom? Selling public water endangers whom?
I fail to see how testing the vastness of this reservoir is a win for anyone other than some private business.
I'm not a fan of the Waiakea water bottling scheme either btw.