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New telescope proposed for Ka'u - TomK - 04-25-2023
I wonder how this will go.It's a proposal by a Taiwanese scientific group to build a small radio telescope just north of Pahala to detect radio waves that are a current mystery in astronomy - fast radio bursts.
"The Academia Sinica Institute of Astronomy and Astrophysics wants to build a small facility on a 2-acre site situated in a larger 10.7-acre parcel about 1,375 feet southeast and makai (seaward) of the intersection of Wood Valley and Makakupu roads just north of Pāhala in Kaʻū.
The facility would be used for studying the origins of fast radio bursts, which are powerful, milliseconds-long blips of radiation that have puzzled scientists since their discovery nearly 20 years ago."
https://bigislandnow.com/2023/04/22/proposed-ka%CA%BBu-research-facility-on-big-island-would-listen-for-whispers-from-the-sky/
RE: New telescope proposed for Ka'u - HereOnThePrimalEdge - 04-25-2023
A few community members testified during the April 6 meeting, voicing some concerns including prime ag land being used for this project instead of food production — and the unknowns of what, if any, impacts fast radio bursts have on people, land, animals and plants. Some also asked why the project couldn’t be done elsewhere.
Question 1: Is the prime ag land being used for ag production at the moment? If not, why not? (hint - Ka'u thieves put orange, coffee, flower farmers out of business)
Question 2: Do community members understand that fast radio burst occur even if there are not antennas there to measure them? Would it matter?
RE: New telescope proposed for Ka'u - Durian Fiend - 04-25-2023
(04-25-2023, 08:50 PM)HereOnThePrimalEdge Wrote: A few community members testified during the April 6 meeting, voicing some concerns including prime ag land being used for this project instead of food production — and the unknowns of what, if any, impacts fast radio bursts have on people, land, animals and plants. Some also asked why the project couldn’t be done elsewhere."Why can't it be done elsewhere". LOL. Brilliant!
Question 1: Is the prime ag land being used for ag production at the moment? If not, why not? (hint - Ka'u thieves put orange, coffee, flower farmers out of business)
Question 2: Do community members understand that fast radio burst occur even if there are not antennas there to measure them? Would it matter?
Regarding Question 2, if community members were concerned then why not "look it up"?
Here's what Wiki says: "While extremely energetic at their source, the strength of the signal reaching Earth has been described as 1,000 times less than from a mobile phone on the Moon.[4]"
RE: New telescope proposed for Ka'u - 'elepaio - 04-25-2023
Get it built by the Taiwanese now before ChiComs invade. " Fast Bursts" LOL and who gonna monitor bursts going back out ?
RE: New telescope proposed for Ka'u - dobanion - 04-25-2023
If you oppose this then you're anti-everything.
RE: New telescope proposed for Ka'u - MyManao - 04-25-2023
Why can't it be done elsewhere
VOG.. gotta have a high concentration of the stuff
RE: New telescope proposed for Ka'u - HereOnThePrimalEdge - 04-25-2023
who gonna monitor bursts going back out ?
Who? Or WHY monitor something that isn’t part of the project? Why would the researchers want to send fast radio bursts into space?
RE: New telescope proposed for Ka'u - randomq - 04-25-2023
The fast radio bursts occur in the same frequencies and waveforms as the firing of human neurons, so it is essential the receivers be built where there will be little interference.
RE: New telescope proposed for Ka'u - Obie - 04-25-2023
I actually watched that planning commission meeting.
It was good for a few chuckles.
RE: New telescope proposed for Ka'u - TomK - 04-26-2023
(04-25-2023, 09:48 PM)Durian Fiend Wrote:(04-25-2023, 08:50 PM)HereOnThePrimalEdge Wrote: A few community members testified during the April 6 meeting, voicing some concerns including prime ag land being used for this project instead of food production — and the unknowns of what, if any, impacts fast radio bursts have on people, land, animals and plants. Some also asked why the project couldn’t be done elsewhere."Why can't it be done elsewhere". LOL. Brilliant!
Question 1: Is the prime ag land being used for ag production at the moment? If not, why not? (hint - Ka'u thieves put orange, coffee, flower farmers out of business)
Question 2: Do community members understand that fast radio burst occur even if there are not antennas there to measure them? Would it matter?
Regarding Question 2, if community members were concerned then why not "look it up"?
Here's what Wiki says: "While extremely energetic at their source, the strength of the signal reaching Earth has been described as 1,000 times less than from a mobile phone on the Moon.[4]"
Let's be clear. Fast radio bursts occur whether there are telescopes or not. It makes no difference that they have no effect on anyone, whether they're in Ka'u, or anywhere else on the planet. Even if they did, there's nothing we can do about them.
Proposing a new scientific endeavor in Hawaii invariably brings the crazies out.
"Get it built by the Taiwanese now before ChiComs invade. " Fast Bursts" LOL and who gonna monitor bursts going back out ?"
"VOG.. gotta have a high concentration of the stuff"