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Jones Act - temporary pause - leilanidude - 03-18-2026 "...On Wednesday, the White House said that it would suspend Jones Act requirements for 60 days, in a measure that arrives amid wider efforts to counter steep oil prices and cargo disruptions due to the war..." Link to Yahoo News article Jones Act - paused RE: Jones Act - temporary pause - HiloJulie - 03-18-2026 Wonderful news! I can see it now and we will have the price of gas at the Kurtistown 76 and Paul's Repair in Pahoa to 2 bucks a gallon by Friday! And to think, all it took was a war! RE: Jones Act - temporary pause - MyManao - 03-18-2026 (03-18-2026, 04:44 PM)leilanidude Wrote: "...On Wednesday, the White House said that it would suspend Jones Act requirements for 60 days.. Considering that the Jones act was initially in response to our not having a maritime fleet to stand up during WW1 it seems only fitting that the idiot at the helm would weaken our maritime options as he sets us up for an invasion by his handlers.. Of course, Hawaii gets the side effect.. the benefits if we are to think so shortsightedly. But hey, who doesn't want to save a few bucks in the name of our dear leader's insanity? Really, all my life I have been torn by the act, on one hand it costs us far too much in personal taxes, and on the other it is there so as to allow our government to achieve maritime dominance in the event of a near shore threat. Oh the web we weave.. RE: Jones Act - temporary pause - Durian Fiend - 03-18-2026 "...American tankers cost about $50,000 a day more to hire than foreign vessels, said James Lightbourn, the founder of Cavalier Shipping, a ship financing advisory firm. Using non-American ships could cut transportation costs by about 5 cents per gallon of oil, Mr. Lightbourn estimates..." https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/18/business/jones-act-oil-prices-trump-iran.html RE: Jones Act - temporary pause - ironyak - 03-18-2026 From the linked yahoo article: "The Center for American Progress estimated last week that waiving the Jones Act would decrease East Coast gas prices by a modest 3 cents, but potentially raising costs on the Gulf Coast. And the move “would also sideline American shipbuilders and workers and allow the oil industry to continue to profit from high prices while reducing transport costs,” the research and policy think tank said Friday." 3 cents a gallon savings huh, or maybe prices actually go up? Hallelujah, we're saved from the 70 cent per gallon average increase over the last couple weeks?! Also feels like this is always needed: https://www.ilwulocal142.org/news-item/jones-act-fact-vs-myth "A common misconception is that only Jones Act-compliant vessels can dock in Hawai‘i. This is false. Foreign-flagged ships regularly arrive in Hawai‘i carrying internationally sourced goods. The Jones Act only applies to trade between U.S. ports, meaning that it cannot load goods from an American port and deliver them to another American port. But goods from Asia, Europe, and elsewhere can—and do—arrive on foreign vessels without restriction, directly from other countries and offload goods in Hawaiʻi for Hawaiʻi’s consumption. Foreign-flagged vessels are not prohibited from bringing goods into Hawai‘i. In fact, in 2017, 61.3% of all ocean freight moving through Hawai‘i was carried by foreign ships engaged in international trade. The Jones Act does not dictate what Hawai‘i can import— it ensures that domestic shipping remains stable, secure, and beneficial to local workers." RE: Jones Act - temporary pause - HereOnThePrimalEdge - 03-18-2026 Of course, Hawaii gets the side effect.. the benefits if we are to think so shortsightedly. The intent of waiving the Jones Act for 60 days is to bolster our ability to import oil. Oil supply up, futures prices down, stock market goes up. Will it affect shipping other than imported oil? That is, will shipping companies reroute any cargo ships to Hawaii during a 60 day window? The 60 day waiver appears to be a one trick pony. It may only lower the price of gas. Will it drop in Kurtistown? If it does will it come down as fast as it went up? The waiver is temporary. The stupidity of cause and desperate necessity for a temporary affect is not. RE: Jones Act - temporary pause - knieft - 03-18-2026 There is an interesting lawsuit from Hawaii regarding the Jones Act. https://reason.com/2025/02/25/is-the-jones-act-unconstitutional/ Cheers, Kirt RE: Jones Act - temporary pause - HiloJulie - 03-18-2026 While the Koloa Rum Company lawsuit was ultimately dismissed, it was dismissed more so on technicalities versus merit. However, having said that, while the Jones Act can be a legitimate case for debate and concern, the stunt being pulled today with this 60 day suspension is noting more than performative art designed only to appease the uninformed and will not do one damn thing for anybody anywhere in America and especially Hawaii. Gas will now be at 5 plus bucks a gallon (and that will be on the cheap end of where it will ultimately go) in Hawaii, for a long, long, long time. Everyone needs to accept that fact. Even when the cause was totally uncalled for and completely avoidable. https://www.bairdmaritime.com/shipping/us-district-court-dismisses-hawaii-companys-constitutional-claim-against-jones-act RE: Jones Act - temporary pause - ironyak - 03-18-2026 https://reason.com/2025/02/25/is-the-jones-act-unconstitutional/ Now former DHS Secretary Kristi Noem's motion to dismiss granted in Jan 2026, finding that the Jones Act is a "facially neutral statute" with a legitimate purpose of promoting the U.S. merchant marine and that Koloa Rum's challenges were "time-barred" as the suit was brought over a century after the act's passage, as stated by Judge James E. Boasberg. (yes, that Judge Boasberg) https://kauainownews.com/2026/01/21/federal-judge-dismisses-koloa-rum-companys-constitutional-challenge-to-jones-act/ RE: Jones Act - temporary pause - leilanidude - 03-18-2026 Not too long ago, those of you now against the pausing of the Jones Act specifically called on your Dear Leader, Sleepy Joe, to get rid of it because of the monetary effects to Hawaii. Classic case of TDS. The Jones Act is estimated to cost the average Hawaii family approximately $1,800 per year. |