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HPP Road Paving Update - macuu222 - 10-21-2008
Some interesting info for HPP residents concerned with the current paving of roads in the Park.....
7th avenue "paving" was completed Monday 10/20/08 between Makuu and Paradise. The actual paving took only one day for a mile of road. The prep work took two weeks!
So far since paving started in March...HPP has had 22nd (from Makuu to Shower), K, E, L, part of 7th street(from Makuu to Paradise) and 33rd from Makuu towards Paradise (dead end) completed.
With the average paving price per mile at $280,000...HPP has spent approx. $1,880,000. to date of the 10 million borrowed.
With more than half of Phase 1 finished, completion should be some time in April of 2009 with the paving of 7th (from Paradise to Kaloli), 16th (from Makuu to Kaloli) and 1st (from Makuu to Paradise).
HPP Resident Paving watchdog.
RE: HPP Road Paving Update - JerryCarr - 10-21-2008
The law of unintended consequences has kicked in. At a recent Neighborhood Watch meeting, Officer Briski (our community police liason) reported to us that speeding has become such a problem on newly paved 22nd that speed traps have had to be set up. Thus the funnelling of cross-HPP traffic onto the paved routes has started, though so far it seems only really bad at rush hour.
There is a General Membership meeting of the Association this Sunday, the 26th at 3pm. This will be an opportunity to ask questions about the paving and other issues. One question I have been hearing from more involved community members involves the statement given by the gentleman from the bonding company who was at the last General meeting. He clearly told us that the only way the partial paving that is being undertaken could be financially successful is if the roads (or segments) with the highest maintenance costs were paved. Otherwise, he said that there would not be sufficient funding to maintain the remaining unpaved sections. The rationale for doing 22nd was for the utility of the Fire Department. We need to make sure that the remaining work is done with an eye to reducing maintenance costs and not for anyone's convenience or to have the paved roads nicely spaced on the map.
I'll be at the meeting in my Texas Longhorns cap.
Cheers,
Jerry
RE: HPP Road Paving Update - rbakker - 10-21-2008
Thanks for the update, I noticed 1st was looking very flat yesterday.
RE: HPP Road Paving Update - HiloHaole - 10-21-2008
Watch them!! They'll pave an "insider's" road and claim it's a high-maintenance road. I know for a fact that some have joined the Board of Directors to get their road paved and then got off the Board.
RE: HPP Road Paving Update - macuu222 - 10-22-2008
HPP working crews have been patching cinder roads with 3/4 minus in recent days instead of red cinder.
RE: HPP Road Paving Update - Beachboy - 10-22-2008
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Originally posted by HiloHaole
Watch them!! They'll pave an "insider's" road and claim it's a high-maintenance road. I know for a fact that some have joined the Board of Directors to get their road paved and then got off the Board.
God, what a terrible thought. If people are doing this, they should be hung by their "short hairs"!!! It's bad enough that we(HPP residents) have to pay this annual fee for our roads, and not all roads will get paved. Only certain roads will get this luxury, and at the going price...not to many roads will be paved.
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RE: HPP Road Paving Update - rbakker - 10-22-2008
What luxury? Having cars speeding in front of your house day and night? They're welcome to it!
RE: HPP Road Paving Update - JerryCarr - 10-22-2008
Rbakker has a good point. When it was revealed that only a limited number of roads were going to be paved, I was actually relieved that mine was not selected because I suspected that the few trans-HPP paved roads would become speedways. Officer Briski's recent report confirmed my suspicions. Of course when I pointed this out at an Association meeting before the paving ever started, people looked at me like I was crazy.
Cheers,
Jerry
RE: HPP Road Paving Update - EightFingers - 10-23-2008
Can't they put some speed bumps in to stop the speeders?
RE: HPP Road Paving Update - JerryCarr - 10-23-2008
Speed bumps were discussed, but the cost was the chief factor in their rejection. It seems that not only would the bumps cost money, but the Paving Committee felt that liability issues would be such on these private roads that a sign would have to placed on either side of each bump warning approaching motorists of its presence. Cost of bumps + cost of signs = much less paving done.
Cheers,
Jerry