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The sky is falling - Guest - 04-09-2014
AKA the lava is coming !
Let's just say we understand that we are living on an island with an active Volcano, so lava is a known factor.
Why are some people freaking out about lava ? We all know its there, and eventually its coming. How real is this big danger, and why all the commotion ?
Also, whats the advantage to living in lower Puna that would have people living there and say, not North of Pahoa ?
RE: The sky is falling - Anxious Messiah - 04-09-2014
Price, location, distance to amenities desired/required.
RE: The sky is falling - Guest - 04-09-2014
Oneself, you bring up a topic that is related to Puna thank you. The lava flows or vents and fissures are very real, for most who are from here have had their lives change in some way because of the lava. We know things here will not stay the same, and that eventually most of Puna will be covered with lava again. This is still our HOME, the place we are from, so its mentally hard to just up and leave. Financially is another obstacle for most from here, not many have the resources to make a move off island, and not many other places on the island are as affordable as Puna.
ON the other hand though folks like yourself have a choice, in fact many choices to where you may want to live and why?. What do you find so attractive about Puna that makes you want to move on an active riftzone to a volcano? On top of that this county probably gets more rain than any county on the mainland. Maybe you can enlighten us or share your views to why or what could be so attractive about Puna?. Personally I love this area of the U.S and don't Want to see all the changes that are inevitable, or happen so fast. So I may be in favor of the LAVA flows if it can slow down the growth of Puna?.
RE: The sky is falling - kalakoa - 04-09-2014
Lava does not erase the lines on the TMK maps; landowners are free to rebuild after the destruction, just need a temporary relocation for 5-10 years while the lava cools.
RE: The sky is falling - Carey - 04-09-2014
Lower Puna has many very unique features that draws people there...some of the finest air to breathe, sun shine with enough rainfall to grow most anything, mild temperatures, spectacular ocean scenery, diverse communities (ranging from multi-generations farmers to urban hipster castaways...) & natural landscapes that are ...breathtaking!
Add to the mix the "living on the edge of Pele"... and you have a mix that is intoxicating to some & frightening to others...
& any time Pele carves a new path, people seem to take notice, as sometimes that path looks like it will be totally devastating & is not(like the 1984 Mauna Loa flow), other times it looks & is devastating (like the Kapoho eruption)
Some wonder how anyone would choose to live in an area that has frequent hurricanes, tornados, floods and such, but most everyone reading this is in an area that has some form of natural disaster.... and many have a fascination with disasters.. volcanic flow is the most common natural "disaster" here...
The current K2 flow is a nice slow motion fascination... gives people time to ponder...
RE: The sky is falling - HereOnThePrimalEdge - 04-09-2014
People on the ocean side of the San Andreas fault line in Point Reyes, California recognize the big one might be coming, but still freak out when a 7.0 hits.
People who live in International Falls, Minnesota know it's going to be cold, but still make a commotion when it hits 40 below zero. (probably what keeps them from freezing)
People in Oklahoma know they live in tornado alley...
RE: The sky is falling - kalakoa - 04-09-2014
It's just another "externalized cost" -- as long as people keep getting a bailout every time disaster strikes, there's effectively no disincentive to rebuild in the path of danger.
Of course, there will be no bailout for Puna, because a lava flow is obviously completely different than a flood or tornado.
Which makes the planning/permitting system all the more ludicrous...
RE: The sky is falling - Kelena - 04-09-2014
The area below Pahoa, which I call the Triangle, s particularly beautiful. The Red Road is one of the nicest drives I've seen in Hawaii. The whole area has an otherwordly and exotic island feel to it. That area also has better weather. More sun and less rain, at least right along the coast.
The lava will always keep you humble and the risk is difficult to assess in a given locale. I thought I was relatively safe in Lava Zone 3. It really is easier to think of it as being under the control of a fickle and temperamental goddess. You do not want to make those mad. But then again -- once you see the fire in her eyes....well, are you going to want to be with a human again?
I think that is kind of how it is in Puna. You are living in a house, so to speak, with a somewhat volatile goddess. She delivers great beauty to you and impassions you. But then, you say the wrong thing and the stars that shoot from her eyes like meteors morph into flaming projectiles.
This turns you into a beauty and adrenaline junky and then you won't settle for anything less than great beauty and moments of deep concern over whether she is going to go off on you. And you might be kinda hoping for that, too.
It does not really matter what we tell you the lava will or will not do. The fact is, you are already under the spell of Pele. And she will show you only the beautiful side for now, until you come over. There is nothing you can do about this. You are coming over. She commands it.
And then, because she can, she might burn your actual or metaphysical house to the ground.
After that, comes renewal.
It's kinda cool. Call Hawaiian Airlines.
RE: The sky is falling - VancouverIslander - 04-09-2014
The big deal is this: if the lava moves along to 130, it cuts off much of lower Puna from the rest of the Island. There's no other good road out, especially if it goes down all the way to the ocean and cuts off the much poorer road. Of course, the lava *could* stop flowing north from Pu'u'o'o - and then start up somewhere else. It's always a risk, but it's also one you want to keep an eye on since you do have time to move your valuables (and even your house if you have the financial resources).
RE: The sky is falling - Derrick Barnicoat - 04-09-2014
Of course people freak out! Some people are always looking for a reason to freak out. Others, like the ones who live right in the path of a lava flow have legitimate reasons.
The reality is Kilauea has been erupting since '83, which is very long in comparison to other volcanos, so it could stop any day. Of course, we could all be dead any minute. It's the way nature works. There is always something to worry about and something to look forward to right around every corner. You can't dodge nature. Is the glass half empty or half full? At least the lava is slow moving, relatively speaking...