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Marijuana Legalization Dilemma - centipede - 01-15-2009
Arguments for marijuana legalization are sound but frustratingly irrelevant because whomever has the power makes the laws and when you think about it, even the mighty United States of America does not have the ultimate power to effectivelly do so even if the people in this great democracy screamed for it and the government itself wanted it.
The War on Drugs is global rather than domestic and it has to be addressed on that level. All issues need to be worked out and because of this, a successful repeal would require international cooperation and lots of pragmatism.
And that's about it...
RE: Marijuana Legalization Dilemma - anela1111 - 01-15-2009
Give it 20 more years when all the 60+ crowd riddled with there cancer and conventional treatment finally die off, you know that same group of people that vote according to how much pigment a person has.
It will be a way different world then.
RE: Marijuana Legalization Dilemma - TheodoreJay - 01-15-2009
Actually it's quite easy. Puna has the perfect climate for another cash crop. Make marijuana legal and let people grow as much as they want. Would be a great hit at the local farmers market. Which will never happen because the alchohol & cigarette cartels don't want any competition. Funny how those two drugs remain legal even given their proven power to destroy health. Then let the police focus on real crime & real nasty drugs.
RE: Marijuana Legalization Dilemma - Kelena - 01-15-2009
Marijuana is illegal because it reduces productivity; coffee is legal because it enhances it, except in my case where it causes me to write long love songs to Pele.
RE: Marijuana Legalization Dilemma - Menehune - 01-15-2009
RANT coming!
O.K. you finally got my attention on this OVERBLOWN topic!
I am definitely dating myself - but right now don't g--ve a s-it! Your small mind of grouping people because of AGE is abusive!
anela1111 said: "Give it 20 more years when all the 60+ crowd riddled with there cancer and conventional treatment finally die off, you know that same group of people that vote according to how much pigment a person has.
It will be a way different world then."
You want to talk about aging baby boomers still making a REAL difference - read this and SHUT UP! You probably would be talking out of the other side of your mouth if you or someone you care about was on this plane!
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/story/2009/01/15/ST2009011504327.html
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article5527880.ece
http://start.usaa.net/article/nat?guid=20090115/496ed0e0_3ca6_1552620090115459624518
And before you dismiss me as some old self-righteous old bas----rd - everything that KathyH said in the following post is the TRUTH! Beautifully SPOKEN!
http://punaweb.org/Forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7690&whichpage=5
Rant Over!
Breathe - Ocean - Hottub - Wine(drug of choice)!
Aloha!
"Each thing I do I rush through so I can do something else" - Cemetery Nights/Stephen Dobyns
RE: Marijuana Legalization Dilemma - David M - 01-16-2009
Mahalo Menebune, stated far better than I was thinking. Have to ponder what sort of life these youngsters would be enjoying without the fruits of us overthehill gang.
David
Ninole Resident
RE: Marijuana Legalization Dilemma - Jon - 01-16-2009
I have a real good idea of how things might have been with out the boomers...
if no one has said thank you... let me be the first.
Thank You.
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I do not believe that America is better than everybody else...
America "IS" everybody else.
RE: Marijuana Legalization Dilemma - LeeE - 01-16-2009
Yes indeed, Menehune re. "age". Well said!
Sure, cannabis is always a popular topic (see endocannabinoids), but the effects of cannabis prohibition are so corrosive to our democracy, country and our communities (Puna included), that it can never be overblown as a topic while criminal laws continue.
800,000 arrests last year alone and over twenty million to date, plus the corruption, corrosion and decay caused by the effects of narco dollars and Prohibition on our government, politicians, constitution, economy, culture, health and health care, society and political and economic institutions are enormous, devastating and largely (thanks to the news media, invisible to the public).
Think what's happening in Mexico can't happen here? Guess again.
Like many critical issues, "If only the American people knew".
btw, I've tried to explain to pharmacists here and in Hilo why thugs with guns on our streets and "drug lords" are less appropriate than doctors and pharmacists to be controllers of currently illegal drugs. Some understood immediately and some just couldn't seem to get it.
How can a pharmacist not understand something so simple, so obvious?
Amazing, really.
Doctors, in contrast, seems to understand immediately, in my experience.
So, folks continue to talk about pot and while pot is a pleasant topic, the real issue is cannabis and drug prohibition and the continuing efforts to end the reign of Prohibition.
Have you folks seen the wonderful editorial by Mark Morford in the San Francisco Chronicle entitled, "The hippies were right all along -- we knew that"?
<http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/05/02/DDG1UPIHBB1.DTL>
RE: Marijuana Legalization Dilemma - Jon - 01-16-2009
LOL...
even a broken clock is right twice a day...
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I do not believe that America is better than everybody else...
America "IS" everybody else.
RE: Marijuana Legalization Dilemma - bystander - 01-16-2009
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Originally posted by Jon
LOL...
even a broken clock is right twice a day...
What a snarky and snide remark.